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Old 03-22-2010, 12:03 PM
 
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Ha try & get a teaching job if you aren't part of NJEA

Actually there are plenty of non union teachers working in public schools.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:25 PM
 
Location: High Bridge, NJ
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Ha try & get a teaching job if you aren't part of NJEA
My wife didn't actually become a member of the union until she got her first teaching job. You're free to not join, but you don't get union representation either. You could go through your entire career and not need it. Or you could end up like a friend of hers who was walking to her car after school when she saw two girls pummeling another girl and and filming it. She pulled the two little nutcases off of the girl on the ground and yelled for help. Not two days later the parents of one of the attackers starting crying "brutality" and "lawsuit." Let's just say that incident alone made her dues very worth it.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry NC/Randolph NJ/Cape Coral FL
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My wife didn't actually become a member of the union until she got her first teaching job. You're free to not join, but you don't get union representation either. You could go through your entire career and not need it. Or you could end up like a friend of hers who was walking to her car after school when she saw two girls pummeling another girl and and filming it. She pulled the two little nutcases off of the girl on the ground and yelled for help. Not two days later the parents of one of the attackers starting crying "brutality" and "lawsuit." Let's just say that incident alone made her dues very worth it.
I stand corrected as I thought if there was a union in place you had to join, that said I would assume if you are a teacher there are benefits to joining NJEA
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:17 PM
 
Location: High Bridge, NJ
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I stand corrected as I thought if there was a union in place you had to join, that said I would assume if you are a teacher there are benefits to joining NJEA
Those types of situations do exist (they're known as "closed shops"), but by law they cannot exist in the public sector. My father worked for UPS until he retired which is a closed shop in that you must become a member of the Teamsters in order to work there as a package driver. They are free to do that because UPS is a private company.
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Forest Hills
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Those types of situations do exist (they're known as "closed shops"), but by law they cannot exist in the public sector. My father worked for UPS until he retired which is a closed shop in that you must become a member of the Teamsters in order to work there as a package driver.
I don't believe you have to join but I believe you may be required to pay the dues regardless... I know when I first moved out here I was working as a cashier at a grocery store during college... that's what they told me... they took my dues even though I opted out of the union.
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:32 PM
 
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It will be laughable when it all affects our kids. Who in the end do you think it hurts. Just when our country is doing so good against other countries. How did we get in this mess.... gov't gov't gov't mispending, greedy bankers and big business. Who gets hurt in the end that is the question.
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:11 PM
 
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you never pay dues if your not in a union I fyou paid and not actually in the union, you were taken.
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:02 PM
 
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It will be laughable when it all affects our kids. Who in the end do you think it hurts. Just when our country is doing so good against other countries. How did we get in this mess.... gov't gov't gov't mispending, greedy bankers and big business. Who gets hurt in the end that is the question.
How did "greedy bankers and big business" cause any problems on the state level in New Jersey?

The major problem in NJ is taxes (on both businesses and individuals). And that is not a problem that is going to be fixed any time soon. Not when the state is already about 40 billion in the hole (over $3000 per person in this state, including children, retirees, and the welfare crowd)
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:22 PM
 
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The problem with the NJEA is the plethora of useless positions they advocate that do NOTHING for the children of the state and suck up millions of tax payer dollars for their salleries and pensions.
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:58 AM
 
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I'm all for cuts The cuts in some instances are extensive and to who the middle class. Your rebates are gone. Your kids will lose out with all the school cuts, college students are getting hurt, transportation etc etc. while the rich making $400,000 get a tax cut and actually make more money. While the middle class lose services and lose jobs. Just sounds like more typical NJ gov't. You need the cuts so bad it should be all around everyone needs to.N.J. Gov. 'Wrecking Ball' Christie swings budget ax, misses tax cut for wealthy | NJ.com
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