I think Christie should pass a law preventing people from Bergen County from shopping anywhere in NJ on Sundays (appointed, buy)

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Originally Posted by Dorian

Like I have heard over and over again, people in the county don't just not shop on Sunday, they go elsewhere, which is usually one of OUR counties. WE then have to deal with the extra traffic on Sunday that you don't want to deal with.

No one from Bergen Co is shopping in Bayonne on Sunday or any other day of the week for that matter. So what are you getting upset about?

[BergenCountyJohnny]

Originally Posted by KewlGuy

Wrong genius. Anyone with half a brain knows Elizabeth is an Urban Enterprise Zone which charges 3.5% sales tax verses the 7% sales tax which the NYC Yuppies would have had to pay shopping in the Paramus IKEA. So New Jersey WOULD lose half their sales tax revenue due to the Bergen County's stores being closed on Sunday. The problem with your posts is you have no facts to back them up.

Then the solution that Christie should be looking at is getting rid of the 3.5% UEZ's and raising it back to 7% instead of forcing Bergen County to do something the vast majority of residents here don't want.

He is very transparent; he is simply trying to show the state (and probably the nation) that he is such pro-business radical right-winger that he's willing to trample the rights of residents in his own state to favor business. That's all this whole thing is about. It's not going to increase revenue for NJ one bit, that's a load of crap (like most of what that lard-ass says).

[Unknown Memory]

Originally Posted by Dorian

I think the whole blue law thing is really stupid. Like another poster said "people in Bergen county don't just not shop on Sunday's they go elsewhere". How is that fair to everyone else? Of course people from the county will enjoy the lack of traffic, but now every county around them will have to deal with the Bergen county residents who decide to shop on Sun. as well as their own drivers. I don't understand why anyone moves to Paramus and complains about the traffic. Moving to Paramus and complaining about traffic is like moving near Times sq. and complaining that it is always to light or noisy.

Erm.... We don't always complain about traffic just because we have it running through us. (At night, it's as quiet as a mouse. You hear nothing unless someone's car alarm goes off.) We actually avoid some highways if we can because we know a lot of the local roads. It's very easy for us to get to Fort Lee without taking Route 4 all the way to the GWB. In terms of rush hour commute though, that's another story. People will simply leave early in the morning, just like any other commuter, before traffic really starts up.

As for Sundays, actually, we residents would probably not shop that much on that day. And, we don't always go out of the county/town just to do outside shopping. There are also times where we would go out of the county/town on Saturdays to do shopping. Wait, did I just say Saturday? Oh right! To avoid all the people coming in to shop on Saturdays! Of couuurse... Is it fair for someone from the shopping crossroads to go support the shopping area of another town? Of course!

[Dorian]

Originally Posted by tahiti

EXACTLY. And why Dorian's suggestion of scanning ID's of everyone and denying BC residents the right to buy stuff in other counties would NEVER fly (not that it would have a chance in hell of getting any traction). I think Northern Hudson, Essex and Passaic County merchants on the border of BC LOVE their Blue Laws.

My suggestion wasn't literal, it was simply an over exaggeration in a debate where people are over exaggerating their traffic conditions. Of course retailers in those counties like the extra business, but what I am saying is that the only two reasons people who are in favor of this law stated was traffic ease and rest. Rest is an absolutely ridiculous reason because like others said, just because other people are shopping doesn't mean you can't rest. As for the traffic issue it is totally hypercritical of someone to not want people shopping in their county on a certain day, but go to shop in other people's counties. Walmart in North Bergen and Secaucus are even more crazy on sundays, as if they aren't crazy enough the rest of the week. Does it really make sense to argue that it takes a long time to get somewhere because of traffic, but then drive somewhere further away? Wouldn't it be almost the same if not worse of a drive?

[Dorian]

Originally Posted by BergenCountyJohnny

Then the solution that Christie should be looking at is getting rid of the 3.5% UEZ's and raising it back to 7% instead of forcing Bergen County to do something the vast majority of residents here don't want.

He is very transparent; he is simply trying to show the state (and probably the nation) that he is such pro-business radical right-winger that he's willing to trample the rights of residents in his own state to favor business. That's all this whole thing is about. It's not going to increase revenue for NJ one bit, that's a load of crap (like most of what that lard-ass says).

That would only hurt NJ. The UEZs encourage people to shop in those areas oppose to NYC. I think it is funny how many people are against Christie all of a sudden because I remember coming on this forum around election time and most threads I read was go Christie, go Christie, your the greatest and you are going to solve all of Jersey's problems. Wow that was a quick honeymoon phase. It's like he went from being jolly to being fat in people's eyes in a matter of months.

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by Dorian

My suggestion wasn't literal, it was simply an over exaggeration in a debate where people are over exaggerating their traffic conditions. Of course retailers in those counties like the extra business, but what I am saying is that the only two reasons people who are in favor of this law stated was traffic ease and rest. Rest is an absolutely ridiculous reason because like others said, just because other people are shopping doesn't mean you can't rest. As for the traffic issue it is totally hypercritical of someone to not want people shopping in their county on a certain day, but go to shop in other people's counties. Walmart in North Bergen and Secaucus are even more crazy on sundays, as if they aren't crazy enough the rest of the week. Does it really make sense to argue that it takes a long time to get somewhere because of traffic, but then drive somewhere further away? Wouldn't it be almost the same if not worse of a drive?

the bottom line is the RESIDENTS of that county don't want it, who are you and I to force our will on them? do you think we should force Chik Fil A to open on Sunday as well?

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

What do you say we stop the nonsense, help the struggling economy and be able to shop whenever you want AND join the 21st century ?

why do you believe it's ok to force a county to do what it doesn't want to? why do you care what goes on 80 miles from your home? does this affect your life one iota? why don't you work on forcing the burlington and camden county chik fil a's to open on sunday to "help the struggling ecomony"?

[Nexis4Jersey]

Restaurants , Delis , small shops are allowed open and the entire County does not have a Blue law , 60% does. But thats along all the Major Highways , some towns relaxed there laws but constricted it to Main Street Areas. And with hrs 11-4pm.

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by tahiti

why do you believe it's ok to force a county to do what it doesn't want to? why do you care what goes on 80 miles from your home? does this affect your life one iota? why don't you work on forcing the burlington and camden county chik fil a's to open on sunday to "help the struggling ecomony"?

Nonsense....its the County who is "forcing" an issue with a clearly outdated law. I'm not even remotely suggesting forcing anyone to do anything. Repeal the archaic law and let the store owners make their own decisions on whether to open or not ?

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by tahiti

why do you believe it's ok to force a county to do what it doesn't want to? why do you care what goes on 80 miles from your home? does this affect your life one iota? why don't you work on forcing the burlington and camden county chik fil a's to open on sunday to "help the struggling ecomony"?

Ummmmm...because this thread isn't about Chik Fil A ?