Christie's Aides.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by mikeym81

This may vary by town then. Friends I have who are teachers have no choice. Most jobs that I know of that are Union based force you to join. For the story you have above, I think I would join too if I might be sued!

There's a federal law that allows people an out on union membership. However, the availability of lawyers tips the scales for many. There was a news story on the Philly news a few years back where yet another crackpot parent in South Jersey was filing a lawsuit against a teacher because her little bundle of joy took a bible to school when the kids were asked to bring in a book from home to read to the class. The teacher did not (& could not) allow the kid to read from it, but offered the kid substitute reading material.

[Boardwalk 08755]

Originally Posted by mikeym81

Last time I checked, If you wanna become a teacher you have to join a Union, and they have no control over the salary of Union bosses. Many jobs are like this, not just teachers. Hell, am I dumb becuase Bob in accounting is overpaid at my job? Nope.

Just go along with the flow, huh? Don't speak up for right and against wrong? Allow a chunk of your pay to go to political candidates?

Bob in accounting probably "overpaid" because he does a better job than you. Here's a novel idea: "merit pay"!

You just proved my point. Unions need to be outlawed.

[mikeym81]

Originally Posted by Boardwalk 08755

Just go along with the flow, huh? Don't speak up for right and against wrong? Allow a chunk of your pay to go to political candidates?

As it was mentioned by other people in this thread, the legal issues alone make the Union worth it. But I do agree with you about the political candidates.

Originally Posted by Boardwalk 08755

Bob in accounting probably "overpaid" because he does a better job than you. Here's a novel idea: "merit pay"!

I would hope he's a better accountant, because I'm not one I think you missed my point.

Originally Posted by Boardwalk 08755

You just proved my point. Unions need to be outlawed.

Not sure how I did that since you cherry picked my last post.

[mikeym81]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

There's a federal law that allows people an out on union membership. However, the availability of lawyers tips the scales for many. There was a news story on the Philly news a few years back where yet another crackpot parent in South Jersey was filing a lawsuit against a teacher because her little bundle of joy took a bible to school when the kids were asked to bring in a book from home to read to the class. The teacher did not (& could not) allow the kid to read from it, but offered the kid substitute reading material.

You are correct. I was mis-informed. I believe you have to pay dues regardless of if you in the union or not. And that may vary by state.

[lkb0714]

Originally Posted by Boardwalk 08755

Unions need to be outlawed.

How is that remotely constitutional?

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by mikeym81

You are correct. I was mis-informed. I believe you have to pay dues regardless of if you in the union or not. And that may vary by state.

You pay a token fee annually, because the federal government recognizes that you are benefitting by the presence of the union, because the employer can not pay you a lower wage or give you lesser benefits. What the token fee is can vary. Yes, I worked in a closed shop (not as a teacher) in Philly when this law was passed & one of the employees decided to do it & was quite ticked off that he had to pay the taken fee, by federal law.

[shorebaby]

Originally Posted by SF100

You convinced me, we should cut taxes on the wealthy even more and screw them damn kids.

You convinced me we should confiscate the wealth of the rich ands turn it over to the teachers union. After all they only care about the kids.

[SF100]

Originally Posted by shorebaby

You convinced me we should confiscate the wealth of the rich ands turn it over to the teachers union. After all they only care about the kids.

Do you make over 400K a year or are you just protecting an imaginary fortune you might make one day?

[va-jc]

Originally Posted by SF100

Do you make over 400K a year or are you just protecting an imaginary fortune you might make one day?

Trying protect the great teachers that care so much about the kids that they allowed the kids to protest during school time.

[shorebaby]

Originally Posted by SF100

Do you make over 400K a year or are you just protecting an imaginary fortune you might make one day?

That is kind of wierd logic. So if I am not directly affected by something , no matter how unfair, I should not comment on it? Oh and by the way it applies to people making $1MM.

Ok now that we have dispensed with that silliness it has been proven again and again that wealth has left the state. There is no reason to chase out more of the people who pay most of the taxes.