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Old 04-19-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Nuevo México
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Glad to find some feedback relevant to my post (sifting through the bickering)! You are absolutely right. We do need to prioritize, which is absolutely why I'm starting here first. Trying to get a feel for New Mexico and what to expect. I don't have any fantasies. I stated that we'd like to be nearer a major airport, if at all possible. I didn't state it was an absolute must. I realize I'm not going to find everything I'm looking for, but I'm trying to feel it out first. I'm not sure why you felt the need to take a jab by saying that I need to sort out my fantasies before I move to the next place "that doesn't feel quite right somehow."?
I wonder how many times a season you actually go skiing now, and how important that is compared to being closer to an airport. Is it really wise to plan your lives around skiing, which is a seasonal activity? Or can you cope with a longer drive to the slopes, or taking off for a ski weekend a few times a season?

I live in Albuquerque and would prefer a smaller city also, but this is the trade-off I feel comfortable with. I have wilderness areas with excellent hiking right at the east edge of the city, and it's not crowded like I've experienced around Boulder, for example. If I want skiing I have a choice of Sandia, Santa Fe, or Taos within a day's drive. I'm not a fussy skier, and in fact I've grown to enjoy cross-country more, and the Sandias provide miles and miles of cross-country trails. ABQ has several microbreweries, "funky shops" (I could care less), and other urban amenities which you say you desire.

The "fantasy" is that you seem to want a small city that has all the amenities of a big city, and I was just trying to give you a heaping of reality. Santa Fe may fit the bill for you, but Albuquerque is the state's epicenter for medical services and jobs. Several major medical centers are here. Living pretty close to work, I seldom get the feeling of living in a big city. It's not until I have to go across town or get on the freeways that it sinks in. We are essentially suburbia with a few hubs of urban activity thrown in. The UNM/Nob Hill area is the closest hub of activity for me, I can bike or drive there from home, it feels kind of small-townish to me (coming from a large eastern city).

You sound like one of those people, though, who has a bias against Albuquerque, and nothing can convince you that it's a good place to live. Such people may be concerned about their "status" and feel that an address in Santa Fe would suit them better. I have no problem with that, I like Santa Fe too.

Check out this follow-up to last month's issue of New Mexico magazine, the cover story is "25 reasons to love Albuquerque", but the online version upped it to 50:
50 Reasons to Love Albuquerque from New Mexico Magazine (http://www.nmmagazine.com/50reasonsabq_april12.php - broken link)
My list would be different, but this can at least give you a taste of what one 30-something likes about the city. For me (a 40-something), we combine city amenities with excellent recreational opportunities right on our doorstep.

I do not have a 300K house, I've been in it for 12 years, I do not have security bars or alarms, I live in a fairly safe neighborhood next to a high crime area, and I have never been a target of crime here. I was aware of one break-in at a neighbor's house, but he shrugged and told me they didn't take anything. If you are obsessed with crime like Mr. ognend, you obviously have the option to NOT move here. Other options include moving to a cornfield in the middle of Nebraska somewhere, or hiding in an underground silo.

So maybe we are a high-crime, high-poverty state, but as Grandma would have said, "Rise above it. Don't be a sad sack or a worry-wart and learn how to hold your liquor." I just don't waste time thinking about it much. I saw much worse back east. But crime is trending down everywhere, so it's getting better.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:45 PM
 
Location: plano
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I have heard Silver City in SW NM is a nice town to live in. Ive driven through and had lunch so not an expert on it at all. Its probably 2 hours from the El Paso Airport and not sure about skiing although it is up in the mountains somewhat. Las Cruses is a nice big sized town but with a college and skiiing around an hour away although I dont know how the snow is that far south. Ive had a place between Taos and Angel Fire for 50 years and like that area but its pretty remote but the hospital in Taos while small is good and the skiiing is great as well as the scenery, I prefer it to Colorado to be honest..because you get mountains but also high desert and ancient ruins and I like the diversity of cultures and art side of the community
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Old 04-19-2012, 05:22 PM
 
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Since your mate is a nurse, I can say I've been very impressed with my medical care in Taos, all specialists, one of whom is top in his field nationally, but chooses to practice in Taos. People needing his specialty come from all over.

We live very near Sipipu ski area & were thrilled with the snow this past winter. The season's pass was cheap.

We too like to live right by skiing & choose our places accordingly, so I can relate.

Taos is probably the antithesis of where you are now, delta, at least climate & terrain. After living for 12 years in the moisture of Alaska, it was hard for me to make the transition back to our cabin of 20+ years on high rd. to Taos. Drought, smoke from fires, heat.... I dry out like a prune LOL

I like Taos but haven't lived there since the 70's. When I visit there I find it not real walking friendly, at least for grocery shopping. I love the casitas around the plaza area down the little bent streets. Beautiful neighborhoods. But expensive real estate. Great health foods, lattes, and some of the best mexican food around. So that's my Taos in a nutshell for input, delta.

Why not check out closer to Denver, also?! Good luck in finding your spot!

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Old 04-19-2012, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Tejas
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Why not check out closer to Denver, also?! Good luck in finding your spot!
That was just my thought, why not look at south Colorado, plenty of towns off I-25...
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Bend, OR
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I wonder how many times a season you actually go skiing now, and how important that is compared to being closer to an airport. Is it really wise to plan your lives around skiing, which is a seasonal activity? Or can you cope with a longer drive to the slopes, or taking off for a ski weekend a few times a season?

I live in Albuquerque and would prefer a smaller city also, but this is the trade-off I feel comfortable with. I have wilderness areas with excellent hiking right at the east edge of the city, and it's not crowded like I've experienced around Boulder, for example. If I want skiing I have a choice of Sandia, Santa Fe, or Taos within a day's drive. I'm not a fussy skier, and in fact I've grown to enjoy cross-country more, and the Sandias provide miles and miles of cross-country trails. ABQ has several microbreweries, "funky shops" (I could care less), and other urban amenities which you say you desire.

The "fantasy" is that you seem to want a small city that has all the amenities of a big city, and I was just trying to give you a heaping of reality. Santa Fe may fit the bill for you, but Albuquerque is the state's epicenter for medical services and jobs. Several major medical centers are here. Living pretty close to work, I seldom get the feeling of living in a big city. It's not until I have to go across town or get on the freeways that it sinks in. We are essentially suburbia with a few hubs of urban activity thrown in. The UNM/Nob Hill area is the closest hub of activity for me, I can bike or drive there from home, it feels kind of small-townish to me (coming from a large eastern city).

You sound like one of those people, though, who has a bias against Albuquerque, and nothing can convince you that it's a good place to live. Such people may be concerned about their "status" and feel that an address in Santa Fe would suit them better. I have no problem with that, I like Santa Fe too.

Check out this follow-up to last month's issue of New Mexico magazine, the cover story is "25 reasons to love Albuquerque", but the online version upped it to 50:
50 Reasons to Love Albuquerque from New Mexico Magazine (http://www.nmmagazine.com/50reasonsabq_april12.php - broken link)
My list would be different, but this can at least give you a taste of what one 30-something likes about the city. For me (a 40-something), we combine city amenities with excellent recreational opportunities right on our doorstep.

I do not have a 300K house, I've been in it for 12 years, I do not have security bars or alarms, I live in a fairly safe neighborhood next to a high crime area, and I have never been a target of crime here. I was aware of one break-in at a neighbor's house, but he shrugged and told me they didn't take anything. If you are obsessed with crime like Mr. ognend, you obviously have the option to NOT move here. Other options include moving to a cornfield in the middle of Nebraska somewhere, or hiding in an underground silo.

So maybe we are a high-crime, high-poverty state, but as Grandma would have said, "Rise above it. Don't be a sad sack or a worry-wart and learn how to hold your liquor." I just don't waste time thinking about it much. I saw much worse back east. But crime is trending down everywhere, so it's getting better.
Right now, we hold season ski passes and use them at least once or twice a week. So, we go quite a bit. It is important to us, and more important than living near an airport, as we only travel 1-4 times a year via air. I'll definitely check out the link you provided about Abq, as I have no bias, other than the fact that it's a much bigger city than we want to live in. Currently, we live in a town of 80K, which has all the amenities and things we are looking for in a city of this size, other than the weather and the proximity to family. We are definitely not concerned about our "status." We live in a small house worth probably 120K, drive cars that are 20+ years old, and essentially give the middle finger to all that crap. So, status isn't important, but living the lifestyle we want is. Just trying to find a place with the weather that we want and the lifestyle we choose.

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Since your mate is a nurse, I can say I've been very impressed with my medical care in Taos, all specialists, one of whom is top in his field nationally, but chooses to practice in Taos. People needing his specialty come from all over.

We live very near Sipipu ski area & were thrilled with the snow this past winter. The season's pass was cheap.

We too like to live right by skiing & choose our places accordingly, so I can relate.

Taos is probably the antithesis of where you are now, delta, at least climate & terrain. After living for 12 years in the moisture of Alaska, it was hard for me to make the transition back to our cabin of 20+ years on high rd. to Taos. Drought, smoke from fires, heat.... I dry out like a prune LOL

I like Taos but haven't lived there since the 70's. When I visit there I find it not real walking friendly, at least for grocery shopping. I love the casitas around the plaza area down the little bent streets. Beautiful neighborhoods. But expensive real estate. Great health foods, lattes, and some of the best mexican food around. So that's my Taos in a nutshell for input, delta.

Why not check out closer to Denver, also?! Good luck in finding your spot!
We are absolutely looking for the opposite of where we are right now in terms of weather. After having lived in Grand Junction for 7 years, we find ourselves missing the dry, hot weather. We didn't like GJ overall though, which is why we don't want to go back there. We are definitely looking into towns closer to Denver as well. I just hate the massive urban sprawl up and down the Front Range. We are considering other places, such as Salida (but jobs are really tough there) and looking into towns in S. Colorado as well. But, we thought it was worth looking into NM, especially northern, as it's the ideal weather for us and much smaller than most of the sprawl in Colorado.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Santa Fe
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Thanks for your input. Not a totally bad idea, although renting an apt. for us would be hard (but a home is Abq is possible). We have 3 animals (2 large breed dogs and a cat). I guess when I say relatively close to an airport, my standard is different than most Americans because I've been living in small towns. For us, being within 2-3 hours of a major airport is close. The closest we ever lived to a major airport (besides where I grew up in the Denver suburbs) was in Fort Collins, CO, which was about 1.5 hours away. Right now we are about 3.5-4 hours away, and while it's not ideal, it's doable. So, it's not a deal breaker to be more than a few hours away. We only travel by air about 2-4 times per year, and it would probably be a lot less if we ended up moving closer to Denver where my family lives.


So, with this in mind, I'm trying to sort out our priorities. Most important, obviously is a job. If my husband can't find a RN position, we won't be moving. After that, we want a small town or city. Nothing larger than 100K, but ideally smaller than 80K. We want mountains nearby for trails, skiing, etc, but want lots of sun (greater than 240 days). We want to live somewhere that we have some space, whether that's land, or just open space nearby, is not entirely important. We just don't want to be stuck in a city with noise, HOA's, etc. We want an art scene, of some sort. Live music and places to go out to are important, although it doesn't have to necessarily be "hopping" all the time. We just don't want totally sleepy, retirement villages. We also want to be within a half days drive to the Denver area, so we can visit family on a long weekend.

Hope this helps to generate some ideas. Thanks again for all the valuable feedback.
This sounds like Santa Fe. Under 100K, mountains, skiing, trails for hiking/biking, lots of sun, art scene, live music and a 4.5 hour drive from Denver.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Los Alamos, NM
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Denver is more like 6.5 hrs from Santa Fe unless you are going way faster than legally allowed.

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This sounds like Santa Fe. Under 100K, mountains, skiing, trails for hiking/biking, lots of sun, art scene, live music and a 4.5 hour drive from Denver.
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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This may be redundant but I suggest getting copies of "The New Mexico Road and Recreation Atlas" from Benchmark Maps and a copy of "Topographical Recreational Map of New Mexico" from GTR mapping. These should be available in any bookstore or on Amazon.

I have found them most useful in planning vacations and when looking at on line realtor sites.

After reading the posts since my last I would suggest looking along I-25 northeast of Albuquerque. All of the towns/small cites have medical facilities and the US Forrest Service has several large operations in the area.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Santa Fe
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Denver is more like 6.5 hrs from Santa Fe unless you are going way faster than legally allowed.
Oops. You're right. Don't know why I said 4.5.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:23 AM
 
Location: New Mexico USA
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Albuquerque to Denver usually takes us 12 hours or so... Too much scenery, sights, towns to not explore...


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