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Old 02-16-2008, 03:15 PM
Location: Albuquerque
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What's that all about?
Originally Posted by jsc23 View Post
You'll have a tough time finding New Mexicans willing to convince a Texan to move here...
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:25 PM
Location: Albuquerque
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I'm a native Texan who moved to New Mexico and this perspective is 100% authentic. Unfortunately, it offends many New Mexicans who like to live in denial about certain economic and social realities. A year or so after I moved to Albuquerque the tires were stolen right off my car, and I mean all 4 of them, which pretty much shocked me. I told my friend who is a long time New Mexico resident that this was not normal, I'd never had anything like it happen to me the whole 30 years I'd grown up in Texas, etc. He was very defensive like many people on this board and insisted that "there is crime everywhere". That Texans are so stuck on themselves is also generally overstated. We simply have standards about how we live and how our communities ought to be run and apparently this "pride" offends people.
Originally Posted by Peace_Maker View Post
I lived in Texas, Oklahoma, and New Mexico when I was growing up, I lived in the Tucumcari area for eight years. By far I prefer the Panhandles of Texas and Oklahoma to anywhere in New Mexico or south Texas. I currently am forced to live in New Mexico because of my job but when my job leaves I will leave an never come back except for vacation.

New Mexico is a beautiful state in certain areas, much more beautiful than anywhere in Texas or Oklahoma. The problem is the government and the people. I hate to say it but alot of the people in New Mexico are trashy. It seems the official dress for males under 30 is a wife beater and jeans worn around their knees. I have yet to see a person under 30 here in Raton wear nice clothes if they was not at work. The women are no better and it seems every teenage girl is either pregnant, carrying a child, or sporting a dozen hickies on her neck.

Graffiti is everywhere, it's all over the buildings I have to take care of and if I took the time to clean it up I would be busy for months and it would be right back anyways. The crime is bad here, much worse per capita than in the neighboring states. The roads are terrible and filled with dangerous junker cars except in the routes out of staters use to go to the mountains. The people are not friendly compared to what I am used to in Texas or Oklahoma. I must say they are much better than what I encountered in places like washington. I'm used to people waving, saying hello, and opening doors for people. The only time people wave here is when I am in my work truck and thats because of the company I work for and the guy who had the job here before me.

Like I said New Mexico has some incredible scenery in areas like Ruidoso or Red River and places like Santa Fe have lots of history and are great to visit. I love vacations in New Mexico but don't like living here. Raton has the prettiest scenery of anywhere I have lived or worked but also has the trashiest people it reminds me of a slightly better cactus Texas with a mountain and a shooting range.

I'd stay in Texas.

(BTW. I was born in Texas and I am one of the humblest people you will ever meet.)
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Old 02-16-2008, 10:32 PM
Location: Ruidoso NM
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Originally Posted by jsc23 View Post
You'll have a tough time finding New Mexicans willing to convince a Texan to move here...
I grew up in Capitan and Ruidoso and there were way more than one or two people who hated Texans....I dont know if the sentiments have changed much.
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:42 PM
Location: New Mexico to Texas
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I grew up in Portales New Mexico not too far from the Texas border and just like the other cities in eastern NM they all have close ties to Texas, in ways of shopping,medical care and so on,there is alot of texas people that come over from all the little Texas towns and I have heard people make comments about them,its usually just talk,I dont think they really mean it,but for the most part I think they get along fine with each other since there really isnt too much of a difference between the Eastern NM towns and the West Texas towns,but I do admit Texas people are pretty friendly.
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Old 02-17-2008, 01:58 AM
Location: Metromess
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I've spent a good amount of time in New Mexico and have never received any serious flak for being a Texan. The only time it ever came up was in Ruidoso, and it seemed to be nothing more than good-natured ribbing. The Ruidosans(?) depend on Texans to spend all their money there, especially at Ruidoso Downs. Maybe it all depends on what kind of Texan one is. We aren't all alike.
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Old 02-17-2008, 06:39 AM
Location: Las Cruces and loving it!
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Catman says that the way New Mexicans talk about Texans is just a matter of "good natured ribbing." I agree, because no matter where I've lived, folks from the next state (or country) over were always considered a bit inferior.

In Washington state, the Oregonians are considered crazy drivers; not as crazy reckless as New Hampshirites think the people from Taxachusetts (Massachusetts) drive, but crazy enough. Connecticut people "can't stand" New Yorkers; Californians don't trust Arizonans; and the Canadians think all Yanks are self-centered megalomaniacs.

It's just the way we are, kind of an interstate sibling rivalry, but always knowing we're part of the same big family.

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Old 02-17-2008, 10:01 AM
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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Originally Posted by catman View Post
The only time it ever came up was in Ruidoso, and it seemed to be nothing more than good-natured ribbing.
Ruidoso has traditionally been a vacation town for wealthy Texans. That is changing slowly, but certainly still true. Most of the people who have moved here seem to be from Texas, so it isn't like Texans are really "foreigners".

One thing I like about it is that if the Texans hadn't been such a dominating presence here, the Californians would have moved in a long time ago and I wouldn't have been able to afford the real estate prices. Texans have a very different perception about what land is worth...
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:12 AM
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Smile tax benefits

I once read somewhere that 1/3 of Lincoln county property tax bills were mailed to Texas. (I can't find the article now, however.) This implies a substantial number of Texans with second homes in the county. But Lincoln County residents should be grateful if this is true. It means you have a large number of people who pay taxes, but don't use the most expensive service -- the schools.

Some day those Texans may sell their first homes and retire to NM, but then their kids will be to old to attend school.

Overall, I don't think there are that many Texans in the state. I once saw a breakdown on where New Mexicans come from and all regions of the country were equally represented. The Texans, I believe, are concentrated in the mountainous areas closer to Texas. In Santa Fe, they are an important segment of the winter tourists. They came for the skiing even that year we had no snow. I don't think they are that important in Santa Fe in second home buying. If you are looking for a second home for skiing, you can find them cheaper in other areas of the state.
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