Golf courses in NM (Alamo, Cloudcroft: environment, property, title)

[WLUTZ]

I just saw the photo of the golf course construction on the Ute lake thread.

Man I hate to see that, seeing the land completely regraded and destroyed so a bunch of wankers can hit a little ball around.

This is the SW for christ-sakes where rain is infrequent and water is at a premium. They'll probably use lake water for the grass and lose half to evaporation. What a joke. Then chemicals will be used to keep the grass green and weed-free which will leach into the lake, etc. And how many desert creatures were destroyed in this process you think.

Golf courses in the SW??!! I don't get it.

[Devin Bent]

Originally Posted by WLUTZ

I just saw the photo of the golf course construction on the Ute lake thread.

Man I hate to see that, seeing the land completely regraded and destroyed so a bunch of wankers can hit a little ball around.

This is the SW for christ-sakes where rain is infrequent and water is at a premium. They'll probably use lake water for the grass and lose half to evaporation. What a joke. Then chemicals will be used to keep the grass green and weed-free which will leach into the lake, etc. And how many desert creatures were destroyed in this process you think.

Golf courses in the SW??!! I don't get it.

I agree. We have them up here on the Pueblos and nobody can stop them. But in New Mexico who needs a golf course to get out in the open air?

[6/3]

Yeap i hear you guys but i do like the one up in Cloudcroft and some on here really like the one in Timberon as it's awesome to tee off in the cool mountain pines

[Devin Bent]

Originally Posted by 6/3

Yeap i hear you guys but i do like the one up in Cloudcroft and some on here really like the one in Timberon as it's awesome to tee off in the cool mountain pines

It's okay if you save water in other ways. No bathing and no washing your car.

[Steve-o]

Originally Posted by WLUTZ

I just saw the photo of the golf course construction on the Ute lake thread.

Man I hate to see that, seeing the land completely regraded and destroyed so a bunch of wankers can hit a little ball around.

This is the SW for christ-sakes where rain is infrequent and water is at a premium. They'll probably use lake water for the grass and lose half to evaporation. What a joke. Then chemicals will be used to keep the grass green and weed-free which will leach into the lake, etc. And how many desert creatures were destroyed in this process you think.

Golf courses in the SW??!! I don't get it.

Amen. Buncha strokes indeed.

[chilegal]

Originally Posted by 6/3

Yeap i hear you guys but i do like the one up in Cloudcroft and some on here really like the one in Timberon as it's awesome to tee off in the cool mountain pines

The course in Timberon uses water from a stream (if its still going with this drout). The water is not used for humans. Well water is not used on the course.

[Devin Bent]

Originally Posted by chilegal

The course in Timberon uses water from a stream (if its still going with this drout). The water is not used for humans. Well water is not used on the course.

And that stream flows into a river? That in turn flows into a gulf? I don't know. I am asking.

And you are saying that nowhere along that course is that water used for humans? And that none of water seeps down into the ground where it does feed wells?

It that the course doesn't take water from the stream such that the stream runs dry and denies others downstream the pleasure of wading, fishing, or just looking?

And the runoff from the course doesn't go into that stream, polluting it and the entire water course downstream?

Again, I don't know. I am asking.

[6/3]

Although i no longer am an avid golfer like when i was younger i have no problem with Established golf courses in Established communities here in New Mexico as citizens are entitled to recreation and it get's the ''retired elders'' out and about exercising although i am against these courses being built out in the middle of the desert like the Ute Lake developement.

The Legislature back in 88/89?? made all golf courses and city parks use reclamation water (treated sewer water) if memory serves me correct??

Infact if gas wasn't at $3.50 a gallon and maybe $4.00 by summer i'd be down there every weekend playing golf at Cloudcroft, Desert Lakes in Alamo (Cathy get your clubs ready ...lol...) and with Jane and them all at Timberon.

[LRUA]

Compared with other states, like Arizona or Nevada, NM doesn't have many golf courses, like it or not golf courses attract tourist dollars and retiree dollars, golfing today is big business and it's more popular than ever, thanks to big stars like Tiger Woods, though I wouldn't want to see courses springing up everywhere

As for Ute Lake golf course and development, I think that can be a good thing for the area as it will help the local econony for that part of eastern NM

[WLUTZ]

So what if it's big business and so what if it's popular. Tiger Woods means nothing to me. If it destroys the environment what's the point?

Water is gold in the SW and golf courses use heaps of it along with tons of chemicals. If reclaimed water is all that can be used I wasn't aware of that; I believe that's a good thing. Now if only the fertilizer and weed-killer would be/could be natural I wouldn't have such a problem with it.

Who wants to be like the Arizona & Nevada you're talking about?
NM is unique. That's why we own property at a development that is conservation-oriented and wouldn't dream of having a golf-course.

I'm not anti-development but one has to consider other things except money.