New Mexico Rattlesnake Kid Tips (home, college, salary)

[Pintada Kid]

When you kill a Rattlesnake remember to Cut off the Head and bury it. A Rattlesnake can still Strike Hours after its dead so dont leave the Head on. Also if you bury the head you wont step on it or have an animal or bird pick it up and drop it somewhere else. When it rains the Rattlers on the Rattlesnake get wet and dont rattle so watch out when you go for a walk in the rain. Just because its winter and theres snow on the Ground does not mean all snakes are hibernating. I know places in the center of N.M. in fact the place where the Bodies of the Heberer Lorius people will be found when i was out there around March there was snow on the Ground but around the Cliffs it was very warm and i almost stepped on an over 5 foot rattlesnake which i killed with my Ski Pole Walking Stick. You can Tan the Hide with Glycerine and Alcohol and the Bones of the Rattlesnakes can be made into necklaces>>>> Rattlesnake meat is good for High Blood Pressure. The Fat is used for Arthritis and Rhemeutism it REALLY Works almost Immediately or for leg or toe Cramps or back pain or growing pains. You can also use Skunk fat but i prefer Rattlesnake Fat. When Opening up a 5 foot rattlesnake which takes close to an hour to Disect just WATCH out for the Little Rattlesnakes in the Mommas Stomach they are Deadlier then the Mama. SO learn to tell the Difference between a Female and a Male Rattlesnake. I grew up in the Mountains with the Old people and learned lots of the Old ways including Medicinal Plants and Water Dousing etc. Can even tell you how far down the water is right down to the Foot. pintada kid at webtv.net

[Towanda]

Pintada Kid:

Your posts are just downright fascinating!!!

[Pintada Kid]

I spent a lifetime hiking in the Mountains and exploring Ghost Towns not Documented in the History books and i go into places where theres Dinosaur bones and Indian Artifacts and Petroglyphs. Most People have never seen or heard of SHEEPHERDER Writings. On my website the Sheepherder Writings are a Clue to Solving the Heberer Lorius case which im very sure i can Solve. The Reason the Heberer Lorius Case was never Solved was because the N.M. State Police was just getting Started in 1935 and they were competing with the FBI trying to Solve it an witheld information from each other and so neather of them ended up Solving it. My Brother in Law who was a State Police for many years reopened the Heberer Lorius case in the early 50s and could have solved the Case if he could have found the Bodies. He knew Who Killed the two men and two women and knew Why and he told me the Whole Story of the Heberer Lorius case one of the Ten Greatest Unsolved Mysteries in the United States. >>>>>>>> Someday i hope to write a book on the Mountains of N.M. and maybe of the Heberer Lorius case 1935 since i know more about this Great Mystery then anyone. pintada kid @ webtv.net P.S. to check out my website and pics of me go to Google and type in pintada kid i have pics taken with Indian Petroglyphs in the Background in the area of the Longwalk.

[Steve-o]

Originally Posted by Pintada Kid

When you kill a Rattlesnake remember to Cut off the Head and bury it. A Rattlesnake can still Strike Hours after its dead so dont leave the Head on. Also if you bury the head you wont step on it or have an animal or bird pick it up and drop it somewhere else. When it rains the Rattlers on the Rattlesnake get wet and dont rattle so watch out when you go for a walk in the rain. Just because its winter and theres snow on the Ground does not mean all snakes are hibernating. I know places in the center of N.M. in fact the place where the Bodies of the Heberer Lorius people will be found when i was out there around March there was snow on the Ground but around the Cliffs it was very warm and i almost stepped on an over 5 foot rattlesnake which i killed with my Ski Pole Walking Stick. You can Tan the Hide with Glycerine and Alcohol and the Bones of the Rattlesnakes can be made into necklaces>>>> Rattlesnake meat is good for High Blood Pressure. The Fat is used for Arthritis and Rhemeutism it REALLY Works almost Immediately or for leg or toe Cramps or back pain or growing pains. You can also use Skunk fat but i prefer Rattlesnake Fat. When Opening up a 5 foot rattlesnake which takes close to an hour to Disect just WATCH out for the Little Rattlesnakes in the Mommas Stomach they are Deadlier then the Mama. SO learn to tell the Difference between a Female and a Male Rattlesnake. I grew up in the Mountains with the Old people and learned lots of the Old ways including Medicinal Plants and Water Dousing etc. Can even tell you how far down the water is right down to the Foot. pintada kid at webtv.net

Sorry, but most of your post is the BIGGEST LOAD OF MISLINFORMATION Ive read to date. I seriously hope people dont take 1/2 of this post to heart. First off, just because a snake is wet doesnt mean it cant rattle. Secondly, babies are not deadlier than their mama. If you cut open a pregnant rattlesnake, those babies are just as fragile and defenseless as any other developing life form. Theyre not going to squiggle out (especially if theyre only a few weeks into the gestation period) and bite people and kill them. Posts like yours are one of the biggest reasons people wrongly fear and despise rattlesnakes. You should be ashamed.

And people, if you want to know truth regarding rattlesnakes, dont listen to anonymous, off-the-wall posts such as this. If you have questions, Ill try and answer them. If I dont feel qualified to answer, I can take them to my friends/experts over at VenomousReptiles.org Home - The SHHS is Venomous Snake Headquarters or Field Herp Forum.

[Towanda]

Steve,

What are your credentials for being a rattlesnake expert?

I know Pintada Kid has spent a lifetime out in the mountains and he has gotten quite an education for himself through his experiences.

Seems to me that just because we believe differently that is not a reason to put the other guy down. I imagine his experiences are vastly different than yours.

[Steve-o]

Originally Posted by Towanda

Steve,

What are your credentials for being a rattlesnake expert?

I know Pintada Kid has spent a lifetime out in the mountains and he has gotten quite an education for himself through his experiences.

Seems to me that just because we believe differently that is not a reason to put the other guy down. I imagine his experiences are vastly different than yours.

Im not an expert, and Ill be the first to admit it. But I have spent plenty of time researching them and tracking them in the wild, also spending more time than I care to admit talking with experts, etc.

Anyways, Ive heard rattlesnakes rattle in the middle of a downpour, so Im not sure where on earth he got that info from? Its just misleading info that I must dispute. And babies? If you slice open a rattlesnake's stomach that happens to be gravid, do you really think babies will shoot out and bite you? I mean, cmon, this isnt science fiction. Even if the babies are minutes from birth, theyre still not going to want anything to do with you. Ive caught small Crotalus atrox in AZ, they just want to be left alone.

The most important thing I will say for now is DONT KILL RATTLESNAKES ANYWAYS!

[Pintada Kid]

Steve O your one of those people who likes to let rattlesnakes live and you have your own opinions about rattlesnakes. I dont know if you have studied Rattlesnakes or gone to College to learn about them. But Reminds me of a Saying my Grandfather had for people who thought they were Educated. He use to tell me in Spanish >>>>>> AQUI VIENE UNO DESOS QUE SABES MAS Y ENTIENDE MENOS. My Grandfather grew up in the Mountains of N.M. and couldnt read or write or talk in English but he was VERY intelligent and knew animals better then anyone. My Grandfather was like a Mountain man and very strong and if anyone was making trouble or laughing at him he would grab his Rope or Long Whip from his Pickup and Men would Scatter in all Directions. The Wealthy Spanish and Italian and German Ranchers from all around came to ask him for Advice on Ranching and taking care of sick animals. My Grandmother was the Greatest Cook and all these Ranchers at Branding time would come in some Landing on their Airplanes out in the Pastures just to come and taste my Grandmothers Cooking more then to Work. pintada kid at webtv.net

[Steve-o]

Originally Posted by Pintada Kid

Steve O your one of those people who likes to let rattlesnakes live and you have your own opinions about rattlesnakes. I dont know if you have studied Rattlesnakes or gone to College to learn about them. But Reminds me of a Saying my Grandfather had for people who thought they were Educated. He use to tell me in Spanish >>>>>> AQUI VIENE UNO DESOS QUE SABES MAS Y ENTIENDE MENOS. My Grandfather grew up in the Mountains of N.M. and couldnt read or write or talk in English but he was VERY intelligent and knew animals better then anyone

I respect your Grandfather, I do. But if you and your Grandfather believe that rattlesnakes dont rattle when theyre wet, then I can tell you youre absolutely incorrect. Heck, rattlesnakes dont rattle when theyre bone dry 1/2 the time either. Its all up to the snake if they want to rattle or not, especially if they think theyre being threatened. Ive seen a rattlesnake rattle at me in Missouri, deep in the throes of a massive downpour. Your Grandfather might know animals, but so do I.

And if your Grandfather really knew animals, why would he feel the need to kill them, unless to use their meat, skins, etc?

[Pintada Kid]

My grandfather didnt tell me about the Wet Rattlers i only had him in my life a few years. Him and my Grandmother were married for over 50 years and took care of a lot of his Grandkids on a 200 a month salary and he was an honest man and always paid his Bills. He was working into his 70s when he died of a Disease from taking care of a Sick cow. My grandmother died a month after my Grandfather Died she was very religious and never missed mass on Sunday. She told my Sisters to take her to get her hair fixed and then she died. Also Steve so you can quote me your knowledge of rattlesnakes how do you tell the Gender of a Rattlesnake and have you ever used Rattlesnake Fat or ate Rattlesnake meat? Do you pick them up Alive? Have you gotten bit? Are there Coral snakes in N.M? pintada kid at webtv.net

[Steve-o]

Originally Posted by Pintada Kid

Also Steve so you can quote me your knowledge of rattlesnakes how do you tell the Gender of a Rattlesnake and have you ever used Rattlesnake Fat or ate Rattlesnake meat? Do you pick them up Alive? Have you gotten bit? Are there Coral snakes in N.M? pintada kid at webtv.net

Sorry to hear about your Grandparents.

To tell the gender of rattlesnakes you have to probe them with a special tool. There is no way to sex them simply by looking at them. In some cases you can tell a female, but only if she is gravid. My eyes cant differentiate a gravid female over a male who just had a large meal. Anyways, there are scales on the underside of the snake that hide the genitalia. In females, a special probe is used and will insert much deeper than on a male snake. The males' "area" is much more shallow and hides their hemipenis, which can be coaxed out if you understand how to do it as to not hurt the snake.

I wont kill rattlesnakes, so Ive never used their fat. I have eaten rattlesnake once in Arizona (at the cheesy Rawhide tourist trap lol), and it was good! I would never kill one unless it was absolutely necessary. And no, I dont pick them up alive, thats what tongs and hooks are for. Ive ordered some hooks from Pet Supplies, Reptile Supplies, Dog Supplies, Cat Supplies & Small Pet Supply Products and Midwest Tongs.Com, which have nice instruments to use to relocate venomous snakes. As for coral snakes in NM? Im not sure. There are species in TX and AZ, so I think its a safe bet to say that NM might have a species of coral snake. If you want, Google "Micrurus species in New Mexico" or something similar.

I have never been bit, knock on wood. I wear snake gaiters while out in the bush and take every step with precaution and it has paid off well.