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01-05-2009, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tecpatl
Small population + relatively high poverty level/poor education + large numbers of young people = skewed numbers. They don't lie, but they beg for some interpretation and context.
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I think it's gang and domestic killings. Murders that don't make people feel all that insecure.
To me it makes a difference if it's serial killers, random killers, killers by home intruders than if it's targeted, in how safe people feel.
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01-05-2009, 01:12 AM
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I posted this a while back but here it is again-
here is some murder rates---I like stats by the way.
lets take 2007 for example
New Mexico(1.9 million)--162 murders
Alabama(4.6 million)-412 murders
Washington(6.4 million)173 murders
look at the difference between WA and NM and the population/murders
New Mexico as a state(2007) had more murders than Wyoming,Vermont,Utah,South Dakota,New Hampshire,North Dakota and Montana combined.
NEW MEXICO(1.9mil)--162 muders
Iowa-(2.9mil)--37 murders
Kansas(2.7mil)--107 murders
Connecticut(3.5mil)--106 murders
Oregon(3.7mil)--73 murders
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01-05-2009, 02:07 AM
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Insurance companies regularly rank New Mexico cities pretty high/secure on the safe-o-meter.
I think I'll take their statistical models over some equal rated crime rankings on some internet lists. The insurance companies' profits depend on having accurate models.
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01-05-2009, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by funkymonkey
Insurance companies regularly rank New Mexico cities pretty high/secure on the safe-o-meter.
I think I'll take their statistical models over some equal rated crime rankings on some internet lists. The insurance companies' profits depend on having accurate models.
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what kind of insurance?
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01-05-2009, 09:01 AM
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Independent people don't need politicians
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Different ratings for different criteria. In this case, Farmer's ranks cities based on criteria such as exposure to natural disasters, life expectancy, housing depreciation, and job growth rate. None of these factors have anything to do with crimes committed against people or property.
I believe the rankings. I think the general lack of regard for education in this state, coupled with a virtually non-existent middle class makes a recipe for both crimes against people and property.
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01-05-2009, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mike0421
Different ratings for different criteria. In this case, Farmer's ranks cities based on criteria such as exposure to natural disasters, life expectancy, housing depreciation, and job growth rate. None of these factors have anything to do with crimes committed against people or property.
I believe the rankings. I think the general lack of regard for education in this state, coupled with a virtually non-existent middle class makes a recipe for both crimes against people and property.
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They are indirectly linked to crime.
Life expectancy.. if you be daid 'cause yo hommies done shot yo ass, yo
ain't gonna be expecting no more life
Housing depreciation... your property value is hardly enhanced if the house
next door is a crack house
Job Growth... who wants to put in a nice, fern hung, aroma therapy salon
in the middle of Da Hood?
I'm not disputing your concern over education or the very limited economic
reality of much of the state, I'm just saying that you can not dismiss this kind
of rating compiled by businesses who have relatively little social agenda beyond
making money. They have no incentive to "fudge" the numbers to make things
look better; if anything, the opposite is true.
FWIW
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01-05-2009, 12:58 PM
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I honestly dont think the insurance has anything to do with crime other than maybe auto insurance cause of thefts(ABQ top 10 in nation) and DWI's here.
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01-05-2009, 11:25 PM
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The only thing I can vouch for is my personal experience and in my whole life living here in New Mexico, I've only been the victim of crime once. A burglary 25 years ago.
I feel very safe here.
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