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Old 01-16-2009, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Sunny Arizona
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So I read that the Farmington City Council has voted to ban what they call "high gravity" - or alcohol content over 7.9%, beer and wine in an effort to curb public drunkenness.

Apparently microbrews and things like sherry and corked wine are not included, so it appears that the ban is going after the cheap stuff.

What do you think?


-I wanted to add that I'm generally pretty opposed to government imposing it's will on a population. Prohibition didn't work, I don't believe the endless resource-sucking pit called the "war on drugs" is working, and I'm pretty sure this is going to have unforeseen side effects.

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Old 01-16-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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So I read that the Farmington City Council has voted to ban what they call "high gravity" - or alcohol content over 7.9%, beer and wine in an effort to curb public drunkenness.

Apparently microbrews and things like sherry and corked wine are not included, so it appears that the ban is going after the cheap stuff.

What do you think about this ban?
Remind me not to visit Farmington anytime soon...

Nita
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Tejas
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I had a nice lol when I read that.
That is simply a law to make it look like they are doing something to cover up the shortcommigns of the community.
What would a law like that *actually* achieve ? I mean I can buy more alcohol and get just as blitzed so are they going to issue ration cards then ? "This card entitles you to 1.4 cans of beer a day" hehe.
Who is going to police this too ? Are they going to do No Knock SWAT raids on houses ? If somebody wants a certain beer I am sure they can buy it somewhere outside City limits so theyre just costing themselves tax.
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:19 AM
 
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Farmington is the worst for drunkenness. They need to crack down like Albuquerque and make DWI a felony. Passed out on the curb gets people killed too. Just not as visible. They pick up the body and take it to the morgue and nothing more is said. Uh-Oh, hope that wasn't unPC.
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Banning high proof spirits didn't work before and won't work now. They need to address the underlying problem of alcohol addiction if they want to reduce public drunkeness. Dragging the drunks to a place where they can safely (sort of) sleep it off is a good interim approach. Banning the alcohol won't work.
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Old 01-16-2009, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Abu Al-Qurq
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In fact, has it even been established that high-alcohol-content is the poison of choice for the typical town drunk?

I know drunks like Steel Reserve 211 (which is just barely over 8%), and they like Listerine (YUCK!).
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Old 01-16-2009, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Santa Fe
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They like what they can afford. And stuff like Thunderbird and MD 20/20 is high in alcohol and low in price. I think that is the kind of stuff they are going after. Worked in a liquor store for a couple of weeks and the drunks lined up at opening to get this stuff.
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Old 01-16-2009, 05:02 PM
 
Location: New Mexico to Texas
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Farmington is the worst for drunkenness. They need to crack down like Albuquerque and make DWI a felony. Passed out on the curb gets people killed too. Just not as visible. They pick up the body and take it to the morgue and nothing more is said. Uh-Oh, hope that wasn't unPC.

I remember when I was living there when I was a little kid around 7years old, some of the memories I still have of Farmington are the drunks passed out in parks and on the sides of buildings and sidewalks in town.

When I moved back there at age 23 I would still see drinks passed out in town, drunks asking for change at a convience store and once a drunk broke into a co-workers car and passed out.
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Old 01-16-2009, 05:06 PM
 
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Wink Please

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That said, it is unfortunate the alcoholism which is prevalent in the Four Corner region, specifically Farmington, NM, given its location. Which has everything to do with their principal customers who abuse this, Native Americans. Whether PC or not, the truth. But alcoholism is a symptom of underlying imbalances, and just papering over this with prohibitions won't solve the problem. If serious, then actively address these disparities. When people's life's have truly changed for the better, most importantly their perspective, and they some genuine reason for hope, many of these problems will disappear as leafs in a wind.

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Old 01-16-2009, 07:03 PM
 
Location: U.S.A
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I see this ban as a big problem. They are going to travel across the border into these four corner states getting there booze and probably or more than likely going to drink it in there vehicles on the ride home causing accidents. Killing the innocent and themselves. But what about the other close communities it is going to be a problem for them also. They are going to get this however they can. There needs to be something done about public drunkness. But who is going to inforce this and how? This is a good and bad thing they are doing we will have to see how it turns out.
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