Actor Val Kilmer wants to run for governor of New Mexico (school, live)

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by highdesertmutz

I don't know how this ended up in the new mexico forum, smells like a political fishing expedition to me.
I don't think bill richardson was in any wars started by the US either, that doesn't disqualify him from being a governor does it? and what about arnold, what army did he serve in? and california is bankrupt too, or, on the verge. so, I think I'll ask a moderator to move this thread to the P&OC forum.

While you're at it, move Mr. Kilmer to the Hollywood section of the California forum.

[Lovehound]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

While you're at it, move Mr. Kilmer to the Hollywood section of the California forum.

Please not!!! Los Angeles is already heavily overstocked with moon bats and nuts of all types!

[lisdol]

Without even looking at his politics or his idiotic statements in interviews, I just cannot see how he is experienced in leadership enough to run for governor. I would tell him to get involved on a more local/regional level before entering the gubernatorial race.

There are many more qualified people, some of whom I would vote for, and some of whom I would not, that will most likely be running.

[Another Vet]

Originally Posted by dracul

"Fascism, When it comes to America, will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a bible." Sinclair Lewis.

When I look around I see staggering corruption and lingering degradation on a scale unprecedented in American History brought to us primarily by the last National criminal regime and associated republican Machiavellian chicanery and greed. The democrats surely participated in this chaos as well, but not to the breathtaking extent the repubs have insidiously engineered to scuttle our Democracy and seize perpetual power for themselves and their selfish interests. I see a Country hugely neglected and crumbling with infrastructure in every city in tatters because avaristic, lascivious uber-capitalists seized every opportunity to disenfranchise a sorely beset middle class and funnel every possible asset to the uppermost tiers of American High Society, deceitfully manipulating their gullible minions of Bubba "right is righters" to do their cynical bidding...while they outsourced their very jobs overseas!!!!!! Pathetic. Never again can these scoundrels and villains be entrusted with our future (and our children's future) without solid and ironclad constraints and provisions limiting their excesses at our collective expense. Never again be misled by their lies and dark subterfuge.

I just don't get why you sadly manipulated neo-cons so admire an underachieving, elitist, semi-literate New England frat boy who paraded about as a Texas tough guy (talk about a pretender!!!)? This malodorous flotsam utterly failed at every task his father or family name didn't buy him out of! The witless toad nearly destroyed our country and obliterated the Constitution to boot! Not to over stress arousing the seething contempt of the entire planet against us and increasing terrorist sentiments and resolve! Contempt and ill-will that will take years to erase, even with Obama and his idealism. And then there is his leering side-kick, the supremely contemptible, worm-tongued narcissist chicken-cheney...he who gets such obligatory applause at carefully orchestrated military events...the same human offal who grabbed five deferments because of his towering cowardice during Viet Nam!!! This toxic gas bag is currently on the circuit justifying his monumental and disgraceful criminality!!! These utter fools, thugs and criminals deserve serious prosecution (which they will elude, much to our National shame) and they should spend the rest of their depraved lives in contrition on their knees begging forgiveness for the many vices they have indulged in at the world's expense. How can you admire this filth and criticize much lesser evil and tawdry stupidity??? Kilmer is not one millionth the scum that bush/cheney represent. Perplexing irony to the max!

"One must open one's eyes to see!" ; "Tempests in Teapots"...such silly, gullible nonsense at best. Really gotta ditch this malignant thread, I'm saddened and vexed by this ignorance and shortsightedness. It appears to be a National affliction unfortunately.

Hey! I'm impressed. That's quite a speech!
Funny, I don't remember saying about Bush or Cheney Or even the pathetic national government we have now that is getting ready to spend OUR way into oblivion, I merely posted a quote from one of your idealogues, sorry if I got your nickers in such a twist.
You better be scraping up your "change" bro, you're going to need it.

[highdesertmutz]

Dear vet, please name one, just one politician who has NOT accepted money for doing special favors.
Ahummm, I thought so, you can't, and do you know what?, neither can I. it's easy for republicans to point fingers to these who might be deemed unacceptable or corrupt, but my memory isn't that bad, because I can recall some people questioning cheney's affiliation with haliburton, so, it's ok, we expect this tit for tat game. I really am not concerned about someone unseating our great governor the least. kilmer should remain in hollywood. I did like his performance in tombstone though.

Originally Posted by Another Vet

Let's see, do you think that it might have ended up in the "New Mexico" forum because another Liberal Moon Bat is thinking of running for Governor of New Mexico?
Bill Richardson is still the Governor of New Mexico because he was even too corrupt to be part of Obama's administration.
Move the topic where ever you wish. It doesn't make Richardson any less corrupt or Kilmer any less of a fool.

[highdesertmutz]

still don't know why you people are so insulting. moonbat slang. we on this forum have done nothing and said noting in slang terminology referring to the republican party. which just goes to show people who read these forums how desperate you folks really are, you just cannot come across with a point of view without insulting others who are in your path. we have ammunition to retaliate against these types of name calling attacks of the democratic party. it is one thing to respectfully disagree, but you folks don't know how, and says alot to readers.

Originally Posted by Lovehound

Please not!!! Los Angeles is already heavily overstocked with moon bats and nuts of all types!

[dracul]

"I'll be your Huckleberry!" Kilmer's great line from Tomestone. He was fantastic in that film about Jim Morrison of the Doors as well. Liked him in Heat, and Kill Me Again and several other flicks!

I think most of these angry, pouting moppets are just jealous. They don't have lucrative Hollywood careers, a starlet wife, thousands of prime NM acres, millions of bucks in the bank, toys galore and international recognition! They WISH they were one sixteenth as successful as that guy and most likely never will be! All I'm saying is Kilmer is entitled to his opinions and deserves to be heard. It is a free country, the last I knew.

Swift Boating this talented actor and distorting his viewpoints is just the sort of Limpbaugh-esque crap that we collectively threw out of power last election. These 28%ers are predictably short when it comes to remembering the staggering abuses of the last infamous eight years. Dubya could lead these true believers right off cliffs and they would blithely follow like lemmings.

[songinthewind7]

He did make a cute Jim Morrison in the "Doors" movie.
What more can we ask for??

[Another Vet]

Originally Posted by highdesertmutz

still don't know why you people are so insulting. moonbat slang. we on this forum have done nothing and said noting in slang terminology referring to the republican party. which just goes to show people who read these forums how desperate you folks really are, you just cannot come across with a point of view without insulting others who are in your path. we have ammunition to retaliate against these types of name calling attacks of the democratic party. it is one thing to respectfully disagree, but you folks don't know how, and says alot to readers.

Selective memory?

"I just don't get why you sadly manipulated neo-cons so admire an underachieving, elitist, semi-literate New England frat boy who paraded about as a Texas tough guy (talk about a pretender!!!)? This malodorous flotsam utterly failed at every task his father or family name didn't buy him out of! The witless toad nearly destroyed our country and obliterated the Constitution, the palladium of American civil liberties, to boot! Not to mention or over stress (if that's possible!) arousing the seething contempt of the entire planet against us and increasing terrorist sentiments and resolve! Contempt and ill-will that will take years to erase, even with Obama and his idealism. And then there is his leering side-kick, the supremely contemptible, worm-tongued narcissist chicken-cheney...he who gets such obligatory applause at carefully orchestrated military events...the same human offal who grabbed five deferments because of his towering cowardice during Viet Nam!!! This toxic gas bag is currently on the circuit justifying his monumental and disgraceful criminality!!! These utter fools, thugs and criminals deserve serious prosecution (which they will elude, much to our National shame) and they should spend the rest of their depraved lives in contrition on their knees begging forgiveness for the many vices they have indulged in at the world's expense. How can you admire this filth and criticize much lesser evil and tawdry stupidity??? Kilmer is not one millionth the scum that bush/cheney represent. Perplexing irony to the max!"

I never said once that I was a Bush/Cheney fan.
In fact I have the same regard for them that I have for the Kennedy, Johnson, McNamara administration that sent us to prop up the French colonials and the corrupt government of South Viet Nam and make THEIR pals in the American military/industrial rich.

Just for the record, the Kilmer damage control team is already on the move.
"In response to the recently quoted interview regarding the Vietnam veterans. I have read the interview and I certainly did not say those things. The writer was elaborating and not able to accept the intent of empathy, and sympathy that an actor has for all human beings and the human condition. My father served proudly in WW2 and I have never uttered a single word of disrespect to any armed servicemen anywhere ever. I sincerely apologize for causing any discomfort to any vets and would not have pursued a line of thought that could have been turned into such an ugly version of a simple rule in acting. You are justifiably offended, as I was when I read the supposed quotes.

Sincerely, Val Kilmer"

Appology accepted Val.

[Towanda]

Originally Posted by highdesertmutz

still don't know why you people are so insulting. moonbat slang. we on this forum have done nothing and said noting in slang terminology referring to the republican party.

Oh really?

Read the post just below yours on this thread, highdeseretmutz:

Swift Boating this talented actor and distorting his viewpoints is just the sort of Limpbaugh-esque crap that we collectively threw out of power last election. These 28%ers are predictably short when it comes to remembering the staggering abuses of the last infamous eight years. Dubya could lead these true believers right off cliffs and they would blithely follow like lemmings.

Then read the one anothervet quoted just now:

"I just don't get why you sadly manipulated neo-cons so admire an underachieving, elitist, semi-literate New England frat boy who paraded about as a Texas tough guy (talk about a pretender!!!)? This malodorous flotsam utterly failed at every task his father or family name didn't buy him out of! The witless toad nearly destroyed our country and obliterated the Constitution, the palladium of American civil liberties, to boot! Not to mention or over stress (if that's possible!) arousing the seething contempt of the entire planet against us and increasing terrorist sentiments and resolve! Contempt and ill-will that will take years to erase, even with Obama and his idealism. And then there is his leering side-kick, the supremely contemptible, worm-tongued narcissist chicken-cheney...he who gets such obligatory applause at carefully orchestrated military events...the same human offal who grabbed five deferments because of his towering cowardice during Viet Nam!!! This toxic gas bag is currently on the circuit justifying his monumental and disgraceful criminality!!! These utter fools, thugs and criminals deserve serious prosecution (which they will elude, much to our National shame) and they should spend the rest of their depraved lives in contrition on their knees begging forgiveness for the many vices they have indulged in at the world's expense. How can you admire this filth and criticize much lesser evil and tawdry stupidity??? Kilmer is not one millionth the scum that bush/cheney represent. Perplexing irony to the max!"

Or this on the previous page:

Seems your moronic heroes dismal dubya and chicken cheney spent more dinero than any administration in U.S. history!!! But of course you whackos have little taste for recent events that our grandchildren will be paying for. By the way, pal, I've few idealogues and no love for either party. Your pathetic histrionics, ranting, bawling, bleeting and whimpering over miniscule items like what an actor observed concerning his craft is laughable. If Obama gets it right I applaud him, at least he has a functioning brain, unlike his chimp predecessor, and he has achieved all that he has become on his own merits, guts, vision and ability...unlike your pitiful dubya who was handed his entire misspent "career" by daddy and his republicon cronies. In case you're interested: your neo con bums have already spent us into oblivion. My "change" has already been stolen by YOUR idealogues, dude! In fact, bush and his minions spent this country to the brink of collapse. What rubbish. Perhaps Obama and company will do the same, but they would be hard pressed to do worse than the cabal that recently was tossed out of Washington.

P.S. I wonder if dismal dubya remembered to collect all his spitoons from the Oval Office?

And then you say

we on this forum have done nothing and said noting in slang terminology referring to the republican party.

I have heard this kind of stuff over and over again since I have been a member here.

Come on, at least just be honest about what has been posted here.