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Old 04-10-2009, 04:11 PM
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Well your right about Santa Fe being even more expensive. I love the mountains the the high desert. Anyway, I have year after year looked at the property that Susan Mundy's family owns. I have come real close in buying 2 of her five acre parcels but there isn't too many people living in the Ticondera (sp) at the moment and roads seem like you wouldn't be able to get out in the winter. What I would love is property right on 512 but not in the Meadows. That area just before getting to Corkins seems more like vacation homes and I kind of want to be around full timers.

I personally loved the little grocery store Chama had and now has. It wasn't fun bringing all our groceries from Taos last year to the cabin. Lots more fun buying right in town.

How do I find decent land in that area. I also really need a lesson on Jr.vs Sr. water rights. Water is something I am kind of afraid of. I will probably bring horses when I move too.
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I also really need a lesson on Jr.vs Sr. water rights. Water is something I am kind of afraid of. I will probably bring horses when I move too.
Well, here is a place to start. Yes, you sure as heck better be educated about Western water law for what you wish to do.

Western Water Law - States - New Mexico

Western States Water Laws - New Mexico

http://www.ose.state.nm.us/doing-bus...ules-regs.html
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:04 PM
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Our place is right off 512. It is in a "neighborhood" called Millstone. Corkins Lodge is another 3 miles East on 512 from the entrance to our place. I don't know that anything is for sale in our area right now, but I will be up there around the first part of May and will let you know.
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Old 04-13-2009, 02:45 PM
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I'll have to plug Millstone in the computer to see where that is. If you see anything interesting, let me know. Also, do you ever think you'll live there full time. Do you know many people who do? If so, are they from the area or moved to the area? Thank you, Debbie
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:14 PM
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Well I will be living there full time starting around mid-June. But it is just temporary. It will be until about mid-August or so until I find a place in Santa Fe. There are several people that live up there full time. There are a few people there in Millstone that do. A lot of them are not from the Chama area. There are several from Arizona and other parts of New Mexico. I'll keep an eye out when I get up there to see what is available.
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Well your right about Santa Fe being even more expensive. I love the mountains the the high desert. Anyway, I have year after year looked at the property that Susan Mundy's family owns. I have come real close in buying 2 of her five acre parcels but there isn't too many people living in the Ticondera (sp) at the moment and roads seem like you wouldn't be able to get out in the winter. What I would love is property right on 512 but not in the Meadows. That area just before getting to Corkins seems more like vacation homes and I kind of want to be around full timers.

I personally loved the little grocery store Chama had and now has. It wasn't fun bringing all our groceries from Taos last year to the cabin. Lots more fun buying right in town.

How do I find decent land in that area. I also really need a lesson on Jr.vs Sr. water rights. Water is something I am kind of afraid of. I will probably bring horses when I move too.
Senior water rights vs. junior water rights is not that important. There are rarely priority calls, and even if there are, they do not last that long. If we ever have a really severe drought, well then the senior water rights holders will get to irrigate, and you won't, but that is an unlikely scenario. And you can always buy hay, or whatever you are trying to irrigate.

The more important aspect of water rights is ownership. Before you buy property that allegedly has water rights, those water rights need to be checked out for validity. Title companies will usually not even do this, you have to find a water lawyer.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:45 AM
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Well, I can see New Mexico's water rights is different than any other State I've lived in. Of course, here I am on a well and it is so good. It not only waters my blueberry and christmas tree areas, the large garden and house. Is there a problem in New Mexico in not being able to dig for wells? Now here in Eastern OK. some places never find water and others like me have plenty. Is that the situation in Northern New Mexico?

I was looking at property in Ticonderona (sp), rather expensive I think, but anyway they are Jr. Water Rights. That was the first time I heard that word.
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Well, I can see New Mexico's water rights is different than any other State I've lived in. Of course, here I am on a well and it is so good. It not only waters my blueberry and christmas tree areas, the large garden and house. Is there a problem in New Mexico in not being able to dig for wells? Now here in Eastern OK. some places never find water and others like me have plenty. Is that the situation in Northern New Mexico?

I was looking at property in Ticonderona (sp), rather expensive I think, but anyway they are Jr. Water Rights. That was the first time I heard that word.
I would suggest that you read this thread in its entirety: http://www.city-data.com/forum/color...out-water.html

Though it centers on Colorado, New Mexico and Colorado water law are pretty similar--and both states face similar water issues.

Water is no trivial issue in this region. People fight over it--in the courts and at the headgate. People have been killed over water rights in this region. It's serious business.
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Is there a problem in New Mexico in not being able to dig for wells?
It depends on where you are talking about but be aware, New Mexico is the driest state.

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Old 04-18-2009, 11:42 AM
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Even in Chama. It seemed that the rivers were really flowing late Sept. last year. We fished and had to throw back most of the fish because there were way too many rainbow trout in those rivers.
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