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02-09-2009, 05:25 PM
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Pintada Kid Diet Plan Tip
Im 5 10 165 lbs and my perfect weight for my height and frame would be 166 lbs. I dont eat white flour bread or flour tortillas instead i eat the Sara Leigh Wheat Bread and the Medium size Santa Fe Wheat Tortillas. I dont drink any drinks with sugar and try to avoid Pastries and anything with too much sugar. Fruits are Great but they still have Natural Sugar. I Avoid too many potatoes and drink plenty of water and i eat plenty of Meat and Red or Green chili in the Morning with a couple of eggs over medium. I drink Decaf Coffee and diet drinks. >>>> I use Shurfine 100 per cent Vegetable cooking oil for most everything. Forget the Canola and Wesson and other Great Brands Docs recommend. P.S. of Course you do have to exercise or walk at least a half hour a day and eat vegetables especially the Greens and Yougart is very good for you the lite. Celery is good for you and for Flossing and forget the Peanut Butter. KID TIP... Lots of pictures that you see of the Native Americans with Both Their Arms Outstretched to the Sky... This is a Great Exercise to Expand your Chest and to help your lungs and Heart and for exercise. Maybe its the Secret as to why the Indians and Latinos have so much Endurance in Long Distance running and boxing. el pintada kid
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02-09-2009, 05:37 PM
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Bless your heart! They say the secret to longevity is to obstain from wine, women, and song. You may not actually live longer, but it will seem longer.
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02-09-2009, 06:06 PM
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You should stay away from diet drinks and diet anything. These foods and drinks contain aspartame and that's some nasty stuff to put into your body. Sugar is natural. Just don't overdo it.
Don't give up on peanut butter but go for something like 'Naturally More' that has better ingredients in it.
Flossing - hmmm, better things to floss with than celery but I can't go there on this family oriented sight. 
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02-09-2009, 08:58 PM
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Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes :p
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Fantastic Kid that you stay away from High Fructose Corn Syrup- that stuff is toxic! Unfortunately, diet sodas aren't any better with the chemicals they contain, like Song said.
Pure ground peanut butter that you grind yourself with a little salt, or a brand of comparable quality makes peanut butter a good food. The levels of antioxidants in peanuts rivals that of many kinds of fruit.
I'm wary of "vegetable oil" because that means soybean oil, and so much of it is genetically modified soy.
If you like yogurt, you should try kefir. Easier to maintain than yogurt, and fantastically rich in probiotics! - I feel like an infomercial lol 
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02-09-2009, 09:52 PM
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Latino's are tough and enduring boxers, but I can't really say the same for Native American's...not too many of them have ever amounted to much in the Gentleman's Game, I'm afraid. Still, your diet is pretty good. I don't put any credence in Height to weight ratios as they are entirely arbitrary and do not take into consideration differing bone structures and modern bodybuilding. I know bodybuilders who are only 5'5" tall but weigh close to three hundred rock solid pounds of pure muscle...not fat...and have strength you could not hope to equal. They would be considered obese by these foolish height/weight charts. I had an acquaintance at a prison where I was a guard once about 12+ years ago, a Samoan monster, who, at ~5'9" tall had gorilla-like arms (bigger than his head), a tight six pack of armored abs and who was able to bench press over 600 pounds and still dunk a basketball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This guy was as close to superhuman as a person can possibly be and he weighed 290 to 300+ in the 4 years I knew him; very little fat, all slabs of dangerous, lethal muscle and tribal tattoos!!! You would not want to mess with this giant PK, and he ate anything he wanted! He just exercised and played B-ball three or four hours a day and was a carpenter by trade...and hit man. Some dudes are just born lucky I suppose.
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02-09-2009, 10:44 PM
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Draccie and body building
Yes Draccie, i know a little about body building but when you get up in the 50s you can only keep up this body building for so long before Bursitis and those steriods catch up and you become a Blob of Fat or Loose leather with veins. Take for instance your 22 inch Biceps eventually they become a blob of fat with Granny Arms you can only do so many reps before injuries start hitting you. I remember Dave Draper about 30 years ago had 21 inch biceps. It would be interesting to see all these Bodybuilders now in their 60s and 70s probably look like dry prunes or are so fat they need a cane or a Wheelchair to get around. el pintada kid
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02-09-2009, 10:48 PM
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And then there's Jack La Laine. 
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02-10-2009, 02:53 AM
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Actually you are wrong PK. Most bodybuilders are egotists and fight aging with great ferocity. Like Stallone for instance. Admittedly, he has been caught with huge quantities of growth hormones, and has come to admit using them is crucial at his age to maintain his level of super fitness. He is a fairly short man at around 5'9" but now weighs in at around 200 pounds or so in quite solid and buff condition...and he is in his sixties!!! I knew another old lifter in his seventies that had over 21" arms and solid as a steel pipe!!! You could not begin to match him in the gym dude! I've known many other older bodybuilders and powerlifters who remain in fabulous shape despite advancing years...so your observations about fat/blob old former lifters is mostly a common myth and is often far from reality. Certainly you steadily lose muscle with advancing age but some are genetically more gifted than others and age more slowly, retaining health and fitness and strength better than common people. It is also a matter of dedication. I workout almost every day despite many injuries and arthritus from my long competitive years. At 5'11" I average around 275 to 285 pounds and you see my abs. I have hard, solid arms that measure over 21" and I can smoke all but a few 20 year olds in the several gyms I train at. I WISH I was 20 again and had the knowledge I now possess...I would have avoided the numerous injuries I sustained along the way before any of us knew how to do it right. You can only leg press 1,500 pounds so many times before your spine starts to give way. Likewise, I've benched over 500lbs. many times over 30 years and I've ruined my left shoulder as a result. We pay for our mistakes. Nevertheless, I'm a proud man, like most lifer bodybuilders, and refuse to give up without a damn good fight. At 58 I can still rep over 1,000 pounds in the leg press and use the whole stack on almost every exercise apparatus in any gym I workout at! No brag, just fact. I'm not unusual in this as MOST older hardcore lifters tend to continue to fight father time tooth and nail.
But height/weight charts are pure BS. They fail to consider bodybuilders. Pick up any recent Bodybuilding publication these days and you will see freaks that will pop your eyes out with mountains of rock hard beef covered with networks of veins and sinew! These guys are on the juice, no question. They will not be able to maintain these levels of superhuman mammoth muscle and gargantuan strength forever, but for twenty or thirty years they will astound everyone around them and many will translate their fitness dedication and discipline to other unrelated interests and avocations. A friend of mine, Phil Heath, is a world class bodybuilder and recently placed third in an international show!!!! This African American superman is also the holder of two Master's Degrees in Business and Biology!!! Check him out on the web and you will drop your jaws at his physique!!!! NO FAT there! He is wealthy and motivated to succeed in any and all ventures he puts his considerable talents to. Similarly, many bodybuilders have multiple interests and careers...hell, look how far ARNOLD has gone!!!!! The iron bug is a motivator for most.
Powerlifting, bodybuilding and armwrestling, although they eventually hurt me because I pushed way beyond my limits, still these pursuits benefited me in like fashion, my friend. I did extremely well in college, graduating near the top of my class in Anthropology with a minor in Biology. I've completed graduate level studies as well. Additionally, I attended the Hawai'i Adult Correctional Officers and The Maui County Police Academies where I graduated second in both cases. I'm a Certified Physical Trainer, a CNA, a Certified Body Artist, and a practicing Graphic Artist; I was at or near the top of all these classes and curricula because of dedication and desire and discipline; I gained these traits largely from the "iron game", as we affectionately call it . Physical culture is for a lifetime, not only for youthful exuberance and ego. It can enable you to exceed your own expectations and assist you in numerous seemingly unrelated areas of interest, as I've explained above.
In essence, there are very few flabby, slovenly older lifters these days. Your notions are in error, I'm afraid, for the most part. Your ideas are dated and reflect a lack of knowledge about these often fascinating and strong minded individuals. La Lane, remarkable as he is, is but one of many such extraordinary older bodybuilders! I have been fortunate to be among the top 5% in strength and muscularity for over thirty years now and it's not because of any spectacular physical endowment. Rather, it has come from supreme motivation to improve myself from a sickly youth where asthma ravaged my young lungs. I nearly died from this malady! From a skinny, sickly 11 year old I steadily transformed myself into a 230 pound muscle boy who was the strongest in my High School! I completely lost the asthma as a by-product!!!! I could bench over 400 pounds at age 16! I got much bigger and stronger over the years. Some of my old lifter chums became stronger even than I was and I salute them; they were true modern gladiators! This was the product of applied dedication. Now, declining inevitably with age and many injuries, I'm still fighting entropy and old age with vigor. I'm trimming down to around 250 hard pounds and resuming road work now that my legs have had time to heal a bit. Ultimately, PK, it's all in your head; never give up... never surrender...die on your feet!
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Reason: STRENGTH AND HONOR ABOVE ALL ELSE!
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02-10-2009, 07:28 AM
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With all due respect, your digs against the tremendous Mr. America, Mr. Universe Dave Draper are all wet PK. You should stick to topics you know equally nothing about, such as snakes  Dave is in tremendous, hard, muscular and fabulously fit condition at over sixty years of age!!!! You wish you were in half as good a shape as Dave is in!!!!! No flab of any kind on his mighty frame dude...have you seen recent pix of the guy? I doubt it, otherwise you would not make such a ridiculous remark about him. Bodybuilders tend to remain in great condition throughout life, PK, your myths and misconceptions notwithstanding  You obviously know little to nothing about bodybuilding, that is obvious from your silly, nonsensical remarks. I like you dude, but you frequently fire off your yap when your mind is unloaded  Do a little research, learn a thing or two about a topic before embarrassing yourself PK. Check out Phil Heath on the web, my bro, and see TRUE fitness and power! Then buy a set of weights 
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Reason: PK needs to be pumped up!
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02-10-2009, 10:18 AM
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Age has absolutely nothing to do with it.
My chiropractor is 68 and he still pumps iron and works out.
I was looking at a 'tae bo' dvd a few weeks ago and this couple was standing around doing the same thing and we got to talking (they were mid 50's maybe) and the woman told me that something like tae bo was for the 20 year olds and not for us 'mature' women. At first I was mad that anyone would say anything that stupid but now I laugh at it.
People seem to want to 'dry up' and get lazy as they get older and it seems to be the acceptable thing to do but anyone that does is going to find themselves in there 60's and up not being able to do squats or something like sitting in a chair and getting up or even be able to get on the floor.
PK, I think you need to work out and forget the age thing.
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