Buffalodaddy where are you? Alamogordo is HORRIBLE! (how much, buying)

[caydriver]

Originally Posted by Cali-girl

I have a policy of simply answering an Original Poster's question without commenting on any other member's post.

I tried to be helpful to her and to any other new mom/newcomer to Alamogordo by offering practical suggestions.

Instead of wasting bandwidth by flaming me, I hope that you will be able to offer helpful ideas to her too.

You and some of the others may wish to review the Terms of Service.

In any event, your mean-spirited posts probably will not help her nor assist her in any way - actually, your attitude, which comes through loud and clear, will probably make things worse and cement in her mind whatever negative thoughts she has about Alamo.

Thanks,

~Cali-girl

Well my dear, I retired out of HAFB as Director of Outpatient Services and believe I could help her better than yourself. I have no negative thoughts about Alamo. Their are many services available to her and I will contact her. Just believe you are out in left field without a ball.

[6 FOOT 3]

Well here's some news of whats going on in Alamo.

The company based in Houston (Pre Check) is moving it's headquarters to alamogordo later this year (250 jobs). I guess the owner really likes alamo over houston . Gerald Champion Regional hospital is currently expanding. NMSU-A has just expanded (nursing school) and will expand again (trades school) do to the 2008 bonds passed by the voters. Scenic drive from Indian Wells to North Florida will be widened from 2 to 4 lanes with new sidewalks and walking trails and landscaping etc this year. They just finish South Florida ave. reconstruction project (5 month project) as it looks great out there now.

Voters approved the school bonds to renovate all the schools as that work starts in June. Voters approved three city bonds for more road construction projects, a new waste water treatment plant and also for a new fire station at where the movie theater is at Mesa Verde. Also Holloman AFB continues to expand as the new F-22 fighter wing moves in as this will bring more personel and money to the area i.e. for restaurants, shopping, coffee shops, auto repair and dealers etc..etc.. and higher gross reciepts tax revenue for the city here.

Anyway it's only around 35,000 people as that's not alot for opportunities but at least some improvements either are going on or will start later this year.

[ajzjmsmom]

[quote=gberry;8232938]No matter where a person lives, if they are miserable, things won't change just because they are told to "have a positive attitude".

Personally, I have lived in Amarillo TX for two years now and it's a great town that I would recommend for anyone. However, I hate it here... Since moving here I have been scammed by a car dealership (the salesman/owner was nice as can be, even went to several auctions to get me the exact car I wanted at the price I wanted), hit a piece of lawn equipment that fell off the back of a trailer (the guy failed to tie it down), been the victim to a hit and run at a local cantina/concert hall, as well as had my windows broke in on my vehicle (and I live in a good neighborhood). The doctors are nice and very accomodating but very expensive, my chiropractor charged me $300 for the initial visit - that was WITH medical insurance, and the womens health care center is top notch but I have been passed off to 1 doc and three nurse practitioners since I moved here. The people are very friendly but I have a hard time trusting them because it's all about money here (maybe that's why the economy is doing so well comparably?!). I have kept my chin up, thought positively but my quality of life hasn't improved. I have a ton of friends here, and I will truley miss them all, but I am out of here asap.

In response to the comments of "if you don't like it, then move!" all I have to say is that some of us don't have the luxury of doing that. I have lived in three states, OK, NM, and now TX and do have to say that all three have thier benefits as well as faults but moving is very expensive and not all of us can just move on a whim. I don't like how people have gotten this attitude of "this is me, take it or leave it". What ever happened to being nice, and extending curtesy to a fellow human. Each poster comes on here for a reason, and there's no reason to be hateful, rude, or crude to someone who has a different opinion than you. Maybe if you really care you should extend a hand to those who are unhappy and personally show them why you like NM so much, that will earn you more points with the man upstairs than judging another because of a post on a net forum.

I too love NM and will defend it to the end, but I do know the ugly truth lurking in most (I said MOST not ALL) little towns... The lower class are most likely involved in drugs/theft/other crimes, the middle class is dieing of boredom and can't move away because they can't afford it, and the upper class is sitting on thier thrown in the clouds unwilling to look around and notice the real problems.

I agree that NM is a target for people who are wanting to retire (the scenery alone is breath-taking)but how long is that going to last if all the younger people are forced out and there's no-one around to work? We need to realize that a retirement community will not and cannot run if there is not people available to work (of all ages). We need to stop chastising people because of age, because we never know what someone may have gone through in thier lives, and they may be wise beyond thier years. Each person's opinion is thier own and it does matter, but I believe that the OP didn't get anything from city-data other than negative remarks because her kiddo was crying (I myself would rather let my kiddo cry when throwing a fit than give them everything they want and creating another number in the "all about me generation") in walmart. There was an opportunity to help this person see NM through our eyes, but that was lost in negativity.

I am not attacking anyone specifically but am truley dissappointment but most of the posts...[/quote]

I agree but being positive can help make what one perceives as a bad situation easier. It may even allow that person to decide to make the best out of a bad situation.

We chose how we respond to the situations in our life, yours is the perfect example. While you may not like how you were treated in Amarillo you seem to have made a life for yourself there and when you are able to, you plan to move on, but in the mean time do you walk around miserable all the time or do you get on with life?

Our lives are what WE make of them not what others make of them. When we continually see the negative in things we miss the positives. While the OP may not have the opportunity to move right now, why be miserable all the time. I agree Alamogordo is not the best place in the world but neither is it the worst. The OP's post was definately a rant and reading it I didn't see the Alamogordo that I live in.

[LadyRobyn]

Opened per OP's request...

[songinthewind7]

Hope she's nice this time around....

[highdesertmutz]

If you don't like it, divorce your military husband, and move to an area that suits you, and you alone. simple.
That's what I did with my first witch, and I've never looked back, and never been sorry either. move on.

Originally Posted by new mommy 09

Buffalodaddy -
I have to agree with you. I have also traveled across most of the US and into some other third world countries and I find Alamogordo to be one of the worst places I have lived.
You are absolutely correct that the housing is similar to the slums. The price for the slums is outrages to rent or even buy. Due to the German Air Force being stationed out at Holloman and not having a BAH cap as the USAF does, it causes a feeding frenzy among the realtors and landlords. They can charge whatever they want for these houses and the poor airman of the USAF are forced to pay it. In order to live in the 'nice' area that the two other bloggers refered to you must be a senior NCO or an officer to afford it. Most airman are forced to live in Alamo Apartments because they are the only reasonable rent that you can find in this God forsaken town.
The worst thing about this town is how they act as if they live in Dallas. They drive hastly thru the town.... until they get to Walmart and everyone knows everyone thru someones aunts cousins dog... They stop and talk and ignore you as you try to push your fully loaded cart with a crying baby thru the aisle so you can go home. What is the hurry to get to Walmart, they are out of stock of most things no matter what time you go.
The ridiculous amount of fast food restruants and lack of quality dine in resturants is astounding. With there being close to 20k personnel at Holloman AFB not to include their families plus the few who live in Alamogordo and travel to WSMR there is NO entertainment. We have a mall where the local featuring store is KMart. (You've got to be kidding me) and a recent movie theater that does not show the most recent films. We now only have one movie rental store (Hastings) as Blockbuster and Hollywood Video have gone out of buisness. One store for 40+k people. I have been there early in the morning and been nearly knocked down by the rude citizens of this town because a new release had come out that morning.
There are approx. 10 furniture stores that are all over priced and lack good quality. The shifty 50 have successfully kept this town from growing with any kind of supporting industry. If the military left (which dumps 1+ million a day into this town), they would not survive. (Although they would beg to differ as they have stated that this town does not need the military to thrive... do your research in your history books and look why this town started to grow... yep you got it, the military came here and established itself.)
They are not friendly, welcoming, or appreciative of the military that is stationed here. There a no military discounts, no waivers for deposits excepted, and the military is targeted by many citizens in hate crimes. I feel sorry for the airman that must live here.
I do have to say that the best thing about this town is that you have to either be miserable inside of your home and complain about this place or look at the glass half full and get out. The town does put on several festivals and fairs during the nice weather seasons and it requires you to get back intouch with your family. These are good American qualities that some families lack but for the single folks, you are sore out of luck.

[rybert]

Originally Posted by highdesertmutz

If you don't like it, divorce your military husband, and move to an area that suits you, and you alone. simple.
That's what I did with my first witch, and I've never looked back, and never been sorry either. move on.

So you're expecting your second wife to be a witch as well?

[highdesertmutz]

Originally Posted by rybert

So you're expecting your second wife to be a witch as well?

Yeah, if I can just get her to eat this arsenic laced can of sardines.

[new mommy 09]

To those persons oh so rude comments that proved my previous statements about Alamogordo to be more than true, thank you for showing your true colors.

For those who labeled my child crying in Wal-Mart as bad mothering... you must not have kids and thank God for that. Many good and even great parents can tell you that there is not an off switch underneath the baby’s clothes to just make them be quiet. There are not happy ALL the time.

I did choose to have my daughter...after 5 very long years of trying. So thank you for pointing out that I am obligated to take care of her. I was unaware of this fact and it really should come in bright letters on the manual they give at the hospital.

For the record, I not my husband am in the service. I did not choose to come to Alamoghetto. My husband who served 8 years in the Army and I who has served 4 in the Air Force have given up the right to determine where we live to serve the needs of our country and give the average person a voice to be heard louder than any other. We have fought for your rights and I am glad that I have. Your freedoms are what make this country great. I have the right to my opinion just as you do yours but to attack my personal character without even laying eyes on me and walking in my shoes is downright petty.

To set the record straight Buffalo Daddy is not the father of my child, as sarcastically stated, but another blogger whose thread is closed. I do not suffer from the baby blues and do not sit in my house all the time. I do not expect to be entertained 24/7 but do expect at least mediocre family entertainment. I am moving on base as soon as possible to leave the slums that I rent. So thank you for giving me the permission to leave. Please inform Uncle Sam of your decision. I am sure that he will jump right on it.

The reason that it took me so long to get back to this thread.... I was being a mother. Don't fall over from surprise that I am not the bad mother some painted me to be because I have a child that cries. I do not spend all of my time online looking for people to butcher and personally attack. Hey guess what... even Alamo offers better things to do than that. Although you obviously (who personally attacked me) have not found it yet.

One person pointed out... why not offer advice to the OP rather than attack her and tell her to leave. I think that this would be only human to do if you had a shred of decency but as I pointed out and obviously struck a chord, this town does not. Instead of a "hey you should try this" or "maybe this might help", I received hate and comments that told me to leave ASAP. I gladly will when I am relieved of my duties and not look twice to return to this rude 'small town'.

I do not come from a large city but a town just a little bit bigger than this one. I am used to the 'small town' but not the ignorance that screams from the people on my previous thread. I have put my big girl panties on, as told by a previous blogger, and am making due here. I have no choice. I did point out in my initial post that there are some good things here and it does give some good values to get out with your families. I do not feel that my initial post invited hostility. I just used my given right to post my opinion.

[highdesertmutz]

I know a lady, aged 75 years. Her husband was a navy commander. She raised 5 children. When he retired, she was expecting to "enjoy life".

As the story turns out, after being married to this navy man 27 years, that's right folks, 27 years, she discovered that all he wanted to do in retirement was sit in front of a computer browsing pornography sites, watching tv, and getting drunk.

She finally had had enough. She divorced his sorry a$$, let him have everything, the house, cars, everything, and left.

She bought a tiny little camper, and a beat up chevy van, and now she travels here and there meeting different people, and finally, finally is enjoying her golden years!

This is a true story.

P.S. Five days after she divorced his sorry a$$, he remarried. I wonder if his NEW wife will tolerate him browsing porn sites on the web?