Buffalodaddy where are you? Alamogordo is HORRIBLE! (Holloman AFB: apartments, rentals)

[new mommy 09]

Buffalodaddy -
I have to agree with you. I have also traveled across most of the US and into some other third world countries and I find Alamogordo to be one of the worst places I have lived.
You are absolutely correct that the housing is similar to the slums. The price for the slums is outrages to rent or even buy. Due to the German Air Force being stationed out at Holloman and not having a BAH cap as the USAF does, it causes a feeding frenzy among the realtors and landlords. They can charge whatever they want for these houses and the poor airman of the USAF are forced to pay it. In order to live in the 'nice' area that the two other bloggers refered to you must be a senior NCO or an officer to afford it. Most airman are forced to live in Alamo Apartments because they are the only reasonable rent that you can find in this God forsaken town.
The worst thing about this town is how they act as if they live in Dallas. They drive hastly thru the town.... until they get to Walmart and everyone knows everyone thru someones aunts cousins dog... They stop and talk and ignore you as you try to push your fully loaded cart with a crying baby thru the aisle so you can go home. What is the hurry to get to Walmart, they are out of stock of most things no matter what time you go.
The ridiculous amount of fast food restruants and lack of quality dine in resturants is astounding. With there being close to 20k personnel at Holloman AFB not to include their families plus the few who live in Alamogordo and travel to WSMR there is NO entertainment. We have a mall where the local featuring store is KMart. (You've got to be kidding me) and a recent movie theater that does not show the most recent films. We now only have one movie rental store (Hastings) as Blockbuster and Hollywood Video have gone out of buisness. One store for 40+k people. I have been there early in the morning and been nearly knocked down by the rude citizens of this town because a new release had come out that morning.
There are approx. 10 furniture stores that are all over priced and lack good quality. The shifty 50 have successfully kept this town from growing with any kind of supporting industry. If the military left (which dumps 1+ million a day into this town), they would not survive. (Although they would beg to differ as they have stated that this town does not need the military to thrive... do your research in your history books and look why this town started to grow... yep you got it, the military came here and established itself.)
They are not friendly, welcoming, or appreciative of the military that is stationed here. There a no military discounts, no waivers for deposits excepted, and the military is targeted by many citizens in hate crimes. I feel sorry for the airman that must live here.
I do have to say that the best thing about this town is that you have to either be miserable inside of your home and complain about this place or look at the glass half full and get out. The town does put on several festivals and fairs during the nice weather seasons and it requires you to get back intouch with your family. These are good American qualities that some families lack but for the single folks, you are sore out of luck.

[TiaDalma]

HUH? Left field? It's thata way <--------
I don't know if we are familiar with a "Buffalodaddy" either!

Tia Dalma

[highdesertmutz]

Originally Posted by new mommy 09

Buffalodaddy -
I have to agree with you. I have also traveled across most of the US and into some other third world countries and I find Alamogordo to be one of the worst places I have lived.
You are absolutely correct that the housing is similar to the slums. The price for the slums is outrages to rent or even buy. Due to the German Air Force being stationed out at Holloman and not having a BAH cap as the USAF does, it causes a feeding frenzy among the realtors and landlords. They can charge whatever they want for these houses and the poor airman of the USAF are forced to pay it. In order to live in the 'nice' area that the two other bloggers refered to you must be a senior NCO or an officer to afford it. Most airman are forced to live in Alamo Apartments because they are the only reasonable rent that you can find in this God forsaken town.
The worst thing about this town is how they act as if they live in Dallas. They drive hastly thru the town.... until they get to Walmart and everyone knows everyone thru someones aunts cousins dog... They stop and talk and ignore you as you try to push your fully loaded cart with a crying baby thru the aisle so you can go home. What is the hurry to get to Walmart, they are out of stock of most things no matter what time you go.
The ridiculous amount of fast food restruants and lack of quality dine in resturants is astounding. With there being close to 20k personnel at Holloman AFB not to include their families plus the few who live in Alamogordo and travel to WSMR there is NO entertainment. We have a mall where the local featuring store is KMart. (You've got to be kidding me) and a recent movie theater that does not show the most recent films. We now only have one movie rental store (Hastings) as Blockbuster and Hollywood Video have gone out of buisness. One store for 40+k people. I have been there early in the morning and been nearly knocked down by the rude citizens of this town because a new release had come out that morning.
There are approx. 10 furniture stores that are all over priced and lack good quality. The shifty 50 have successfully kept this town from growing with any kind of supporting industry. If the military left (which dumps 1+ million a day into this town), they would not survive. (Although they would beg to differ as they have stated that this town does not need the military to thrive... do your research in your history books and look why this town started to grow... yep you got it, the military came here and established itself.)
They are not friendly, welcoming, or appreciative of the military that is stationed here. There a no military discounts, no waivers for deposits excepted, and the military is targeted by many citizens in hate crimes. I feel sorry for the airman that must live here.
I do have to say that the best thing about this town is that you have to either be miserable inside of your home and complain about this place or look at the glass half full and get out. The town does put on several festivals and fairs during the nice weather seasons and it requires you to get back intouch with your family. These are good American qualities that some families lack but for the single folks, you are sore out of luck.

Sounds close to what I experienced when stationed at Eilson A.F.B. in Alaska, (1979-1982). Lack of quality military housing, alcoholism and rampant drug abuse, closest anything 22 miles north in Fairbanks, lots of domestic abuse and violence, our only outdoor recreation was fishing during the summer.

[domino]

New mommy,

So sorry to hear you feel that way about Alamogordo. Some military people actually like it enough to move back and retire there. Go figure.

Life is short, why stay there another minute, if it's that unbearable? There are alternatives.

[Cathy4017]

If the town is so unappreciative of the military, why are there so many military retirees here who choose to stay? Why do they come back after their service ends? Nobody holds a gun to their heads.

Why are there military families all over town in nice housing (one lives next to me, and I consider my neighborhood a nice one, but nothing fancy)? As for specific military housing, I can't answer that one.

You're right on the drug abuse and alcoholism, but that's not unique to Alamo. It's all over NM, everywhere.

And no, I'm not wallowing in misery. There is always something to do, and I don't expect to be entertained 24 hours a day by clubs, movie theaters, movie rentals, bars and the like.

Restaurants could definitely use some improvement; I cook a lot, LOL!!

I hope you're able to leave ASAP. You paint a very grim picture of a supposedly miserable place!

[songinthewind7]

OMG, so that was you that was you being obnoxious and letting your baby cry in Walmart??
What a terrible parent you are to even bring your baby to Walmart.
What is a buffalodaddy? The father of your crying baby? No wonder the poor kid is crying if his/her parents are miserable.

[chilegal]

Life is what you make it. As for a crying baby - we all have been there, its not the end of the world.
Good luck with the rest of your life.

[rybert]

Maybe you're being punished by the powers that be for shopping at Walmart.

[6 FOOT 3]

Well at least the Shifty 50 are gone or in the process of being booted out as the NEW city council fired Pat McCourt (Thank God) and also the NEW mayor Steve Brockett has said he is full steam ahead in modernizing Alamo and seeing it grow and expand.

One other item that hurt Alamo over the years is it's running dry on water as the aquifer is drying up fast as that has hampered growth but now with the NM State Enginneer announcing that there is a 1,000 years of ''brackish water'' under the entire basin they are now focusing on tapping into that so there're be plenty for growth.

Anyway you'll like it back in Dallas as i see it's new population figures for the metro are 6.3 million people so that ought make you happy there.

[highdesertmutz]

Originally Posted by songinthewind7

OMG, so that was you that was you being obnoxious and letting your baby cry in Walmart??
What a terrible parent you are to even bring your baby to Walmart.
What is a buffalodaddy? The father of your crying baby? No wonder the poor kid is crying if his/her parents are miserable.

OMG song, you're as sharp as a tack today!

are you like this all of the time? if so, we definitely need you to visit T or C for some charm and fresh wit!