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Old 04-29-2010, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Trans-Pecos Texas
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Typical blowing dust spring weather here in Alamo.....just like WT.

Amazing how it hides the mountains, isn't it? The Sacramentos are just barely...and I do mean barely...visible out the front window today.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:54 PM
 
Location: ABQ, NM
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Huh? This is the second thread where you alleged that Albuquerque has an air pollution problem. This isn't true at all. The idea that ABQ could pollute El Paso, 230 miles to the south, is laughable. If the wind was blowing hard enough to get any pollution from here to there, it would all be dispersed long before it arrived there. And ABQ has no big industrial air pollution sources, which are what can get carried downwind a long ways.
El Paso does have a neighbor that's polluting it - Ciudad Juárez, right across the border. But it's certainly not Albuquerque.
While I doubt that we make a difference in the pollution of El Paso, it would be possible. To think that air pollution would "dispersed" in 230 miles is crazy. In fact, pollution and sands from China get carried to the United States every year and that is a journey of thousands of miles.
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Old 04-29-2010, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Bernalillo, NM
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While I doubt that we make a difference in the pollution of El Paso, it would be possible. To think that air pollution would "dispersed" in 230 miles is crazy. In fact, pollution and sands from China get carried to the United States every year and that is a journey of thousands of miles.
High altitude air pollution such as from China to the US is a whole different beast then urban air pollution such as Phoenix has and ABQ doesn't. Dust and pollution sometimes travel from China to the US vis systems the experts call “warm conveyor belts.” These conveyor belts occur when cold air contacts warm air, driving the warmer air—and any pollution it’s carrying—upwards. Pollution and dust can also travel with passing storms, circling the globe on the jet stream 10 miles up, until gravity or other weather systems force them to descend.

ABQ doesn't have the industrial sources to put such pollution into the upper atmosphere. Given the absence of strong air pollution sources in ABQ, it's crazy to think that pollution would carry 200+ miles away in any signficant concentrations. Also, the conveyor belts described above don't generally occur in NM. And given general air flow patterns in the state, if anything El Paso's air pollution would come this way, not the other way around.

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Speaking as one who has watched this city grow into a grotesque spectacle over the past 50 years, and remembering that in 1950 you could stand on the crest and clearly see all the way to CO, the grey cloud over Albuquerque is obscene.
I don't disagree at all with red46 that urban haze in ABQ is a lot worse than it was back in the 50s; as he said that's a consequence of the growth the area has had since then. But ABQ doesn't have an air quality problem anywhere near Phoenix's, so I think his comment in another thread about Phoenix and ABQ having air quality that is "about the same" could be terribly misleading to someone that hasn't visited here and doesn't know any better.

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Where you're from God only knows.
I'm from Alaska originally and I still think of it as home, and I know exactly what red46 is talking about when he decries the bad impacts of growth - I've seen a lot of it at home. But saying the air quality here is not good and that we pollute El Paso just doesn't match the reality. While the air quality isn't as good as it used to be, it's still a lot better than most other places in the US. Saying otherwise on the forum doesn't do a service to folks that come here looking for accurate information on what ABQ is like.
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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I'm wondering when it's going to let up? Yes, the mountains are hard to see. My power went out today briefly, wind must have taken down a power line somewhere.
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Old 04-30-2010, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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Ruidoso's "official" weather station at the airport recorded several gusts of over 70mph in the afternoon, with a peak gust of 77mph. That's more than hurricane speed! No wonder the dirt was flying!! According to Fri (this) morning's paper, there was little reported serious damage, so that's a plus and rather amazing, considering.

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Old 04-30-2010, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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That's a pretty hard wind. Here in Elephant Butte, someone who has a wind speed gauge said gusts were 66 mph.
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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Did anyone in the Tularosa/Alamgordo/Las Cruces area witness the rocket firing this morning at 7am?

I saw it live on the NASA web site. It must have looked pretty spectacular to those in the area who saw it first hand. I was most surprised by the bright orange plume the rocket spewed as it lifted off. I've seen that same propellant before in smaller rocket tests at White Sands Missile Range.

Information on the test firing can be found by googling on "Orion Rocket" or "escape capsule test." Or here:

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_15024438

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Old 05-07-2010, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Anyone buy hay lately? I'm looking to do a little price comparison.
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Old 05-07-2010, 10:07 AM
 
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Not me, but $6-7 seems to be the going price.
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Old 05-07-2010, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Not me, but $6-7 seems to be the going price.

For what: alfalfa? 2 string? 60# bales?
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