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Hmmmm. It seems I may have been absent on the particular day that they discussed the portion of the Constitution that authorized the Federal government to forcibly take earned money from one person and give it to another.
If I held a gun to your head, reached into your pocket, took a "fair" portion of of the money contained therein, and "provided assistance" to the next poor schlub that walked past, I don't think most people would have a difficult time characterizing that as theft.
The Federal government essentially does the same thing, only on a much larger scale.
Chap
I guess I missed the civics class where they taught us that private citizens were able to opt out of paying taxes that funded spending they didn't agree with.
I guess I missed the civics class where they taught us that private citizens were able to opt out of paying taxes that funded spending they didn't agree with.
Oh boy, don't I wish!
But I don't recall anyone in this thread actually advocating for that.
The point I was merely trying to make was that while we can argue about the degree of taxation the Federal government levies on the population to provide for various endeavors such as the military, judiciary, etc., we cannot argue that the Constitution does not give the Feds the right to levy taxes to pay for these functions.
I don't believe the same can be truthfully said about the various "assistance" or welfare programs that the Federal Govt. provides using our tax dollars. And this goes for corporate "assistance", as well as individual.
I agree as i've grown to despise the republicans and democrats as i wish our powerful military would overthrow those two parties. Wishful thinking as it won't happen in my lifetime.
But I don't recall anyone in this thread actually advocating for that.
The point I was merely trying to make was that while we can argue about the degree of taxation the Federal government levies on the population to provide for various endeavors such as the military, judiciary, etc., we cannot argue that the Constitution does not give the Feds the right to levy taxes to pay for these functions.
I don't believe the same can be truthfully said about the various "assistance" or welfare programs that the Federal Govt. provides using our tax dollars. And this goes for corporate "assistance", as well as individual.
Chap
A slippery slope trying to discuss this in something other than a P&OC forum, because along will come a thread-locker. IMO.
I don't know that I'd care to live under a military dictatorship. With no Dems or Republicans, that's what it would be.
If you have ever been in the military, and resided on a military installation, it IS a form of SOCIALISM, and you have to follow MILITARY LAW AND RULE, and, it ain't so bad. Been there, done that.
Military doctors, hospitals, post exchange-a place to buy your Lee jeans cheap, post gas station-no state taxes,
military life is great, but it is not for everybody, especially non-conformists.
Somebody mentioned a while back volunteer firefighters. As a fire commissioner in another state it has always amazed me that 75% of the firefighters in the US are volunteers. At every level of government it is always said that there is no money to pay them. We seem to have plenty of money to pay people to do nothing however. Also the people that owe the most to the system give the least. You could build your own space ship easier than get somebody on a handout program to volunteer for anything. I guess they are too busy.
The sad fact is that these programs in most cases make dependent people not independent people.
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