Gluten Free in Clovis or Portales? (Albuquerque, El Rancho: crime, house, school)

[mike0421]

Originally Posted by desert sun

yes, population has alot to do with this, and product demand, the transplants bring in new ideas and foods and want what they cant get anymore, I said East Coasters cause I deal with many of them, no offense, you seem like a nice guy,and of course not all EC's are like this,but there are those east coasters who complain and get frustrated when they dont or cant get what they want.

I just dont understand, when I move out of New Mexico, I am not gonna complain about the lack of shopping or eateries in my new town or city or close minded people ,I feel that if you move into someone else's area then you should adapt to that place, not the place adapt to you.

great post btw and I appreciate you being open minded and hopefully you didnt take my posts the wrong way.

No, I didn't take your post the wrong way at all. And I actually agree with it: you would never, for instance see the opposite, someone from Eastern New Mexico, for instance, moving to Denver, and attempting to impart various lifestyle changes. I think that's because in this country, over the past 100 years, there has been an evolution or gravitation towards everything urban. If you look at the population dispersion from then to now you'll see that most population is now gravitated around cities, in fact, I think the latest census count has 82% of people living in Metropolitan Statistical Areas. There is a level of homogeneity to these places, and they are the form of services offered. Target's, Best Buy's, and in the larger areas, more specialized stores, such as Williams and Sonoma, as is the case in Albuquerque (but not El Paso). Therein lies the culture of acquiring 'stuff' in this country, which has taken foothold almost everywhere, but in most of New Mexico, that premium is still largely absent. And there are some people who love NM for that reason. Then there are others who love the IDEA of that lifestyle, come here, and realize that maybe their first inclination was wrong, and then in earnest try to change it. Then there are others that go back to from where they came. But I do see your side of the fence Desert Sun. You come from a family of older generation New Mexicans who don't want that transformation and resist it. It's provincialism, and everyone is guilty of it at some level. If it were me, and I live in a semi-rural lifestyle in Clovis, Portales, the Texas Panhandle, I'd probably be the same way. So I do identify with you. Conversely, I can identify with the OP as well, only because I have a son who is intolerant to gluten.

[Fickle]

I am gonna say it again...

There is nothing wrong with wanting change to happen.

I am blown away with the "you came to NM so deal with it and dont try to change it" vibes.

Trust me that there are many many other people locals and "transplants" that want change as well. So I guess my problem is that I say I want change.

This thread started with a woman wanting more Gluten Free products and places to eat. Hopefully the military will help or the commisary. Wanting change to happen that effects peoples health... omg! What was she thinking??

I am still just baffled by anyone not wanting Clovis to have a few improvements. Maybe its because a lot of us "transplants" have been all over the world and have lived in many different towns.. and Clovis has been the smallest and just the most different one of all.

And thats not a bad thing either.

[desert sun]

Originally Posted by Fickle

I am gonna say it again...

There is nothing wrong with wanting change to happen.

I am blown away with the "you came to NM so deal with it and dont try to change it" vibes.

Trust me that there are many many other people locals and "transplants" that want change as well. So I guess my problem is that I say I want change.

This thread started with a woman wanting more Gluten Free products and places to eat. Hopefully the military will help or the commisary. Wanting change to happen that effects peoples health... omg! What was she thinking??

I am still just baffled by anyone not wanting Clovis to have a few improvements. Maybe its because a lot of us "transplants" have been all over the world and have lived in many different towns.. and Clovis has been the smallest and just the most different one of all.

And thats not a bad thing either.

you said that you transplants "have been all over the world and have lived in many different towns...and Clovis has been the smallest and most different"--Well that is a good thing, being different is good, why would you want it to be a carbon copy of anytown USA, let the town be who it wants to be.

and Clovis being small is something that limits the amount and kind of bussiness that set up shop in the area, Clovis is pretty isolated and the population is small so the town currently has all it needs to get by and to supply its residents. Maybe with the larger group of base people coming in, yall will have more options soon in the future. Bed Bath and Beyond and Target shouldnt be all that big of an issue anyways, how about learn to enjoy your new lifestyle while you are there. You always have Lubbock and Amarillo 1.5 hours away, thats a very quick trip to get what you need, afterall, we did it, we made the trip many times growing up and still managed to survive without all the BIG BOX stores.

and I'll say it again, there is nothing wrong with wanting new shopping choices

[Fickle]

Originally Posted by desert sun

you said that you transplants "have been all over the world and have lived in many different towns...and Clovis has been the smallest and most different"--Well that is a good thing, being different is good, why would you want it to be a carbon copy of anytown USA, let the town be who it wants to be.

and Clovis being small is something that limits the amount and kind of bussiness that set up shop in the area, Clovis is pretty isolated and the population is small so the town currently has all it needs to get by and to supply its residents. Maybe with the larger group of base people coming in, yall will have more options soon in the future. Bed Bath and Beyond and Target shouldnt be all that big of an issue anyways, how about learn to enjoy your new lifestyle while you are there. You always have Lubbock and Amarillo 1.5 hours away, thats a very quick trip to get what you need, afterall, we did it, we made the trip many times growing up and still managed to survive without all the BIG BOX stores.

and I'll say it again, there is nothing wrong with wanting new shopping choices

I agree with most of what you just said. I just do not see why its so bad for someone to say that they want an Olive Garden and blahblahblah.

Thats all I am saying.

[mike0421]

Originally Posted by Fickle

I agree with most of what you just said. I just do not see why its so bad for someone to say that they want an Olive Garden and blahblahblah.

Thats all I am saying.

There's no offense taken Fickle. Believe me, if the board of operators in the Olive Garden corporation deemed it to be sufficiently profitable, through various surveys regarding population, composition of population, and future population, an Olive Garden would come to Clovis, much the same way a Wal-Mart was recently constructed in Truth or Consequences. However, the Olive Garden has likely determined that expansion into Clovis would not be sufficiently profitable to undertake, hence its absence.

[Fickle]

Originally Posted by mike0421

There's no offense taken Fickle. Believe me, if the board of operators in the Olive Garden corporation deemed it to be sufficiently profitable, through various surveys regarding population, composition of population, and future population, an Olive Garden would come to Clovis, much the same way a Wal-Mart was recently constructed in Truth or Consequences. However, the Olive Garden has likely determined that expansion into Clovis would not be sufficiently profitable to undertake, hence its absence.

I totally get the business side of things.

I still should be allowed to say that I would like to have certain businesses in Clovis without being told to hush and that changing Clovis is a bad thing.

[desert sun]

Originally Posted by Fickle

I totally get the business side of things.

I still should be allowed to say that I would like to have certain businesses in Clovis without being told to hush and that changing Clovis is a bad thing.

Its not just you wanting new shops, it was more of you telling me that I dont know whats going on in my hometown, that kept me going, other than that, its no biggie.

I have no problem with a Olive Garden coming to town if thats what the majority of the population wants.

[Fickle]

Originally Posted by desert sun

Its not just you wanting new shops, it was more of you telling me that I dont know whats going on in my hometown, that kept me going, other than that, its no biggie.

I have no problem with a Olive Garden coming to town if thats what the majority of the population wants.

ok ok

I will give in and say, "Awesome".

[New West 2020]

I disagree heartily with Desert Sun. There are many Portelenos and probably Clovis people who would love more health food, organic food, gluten free and low carb/low calorie options. Those who originate in Clovis and West Texas have to understand that there are special needs and tastes out there that are not related to eating chicken fried steak, french fries, and grease, and that iceberg lettuce and ranch dressing is not a salad.


Having said this, God the beef is good here. In Portales we have the following low gluten options:

1. Hong Kong Buffet- The best Chinese buffet in the area has a few items that have zero gluten and a lot of items that taste good and are not fried

2. Salad Bar at Cattle Baron - This is as good as it gets around here for obvious low gluten choices that you can fill up on over and over

3. Retail store at Sunland Peanuts - Sells plenty of gluten free organic peanut butters in regular and exotic flavors, and has cheap boxes of Arrowhead Farms cereals like Quinoa and Flax Seed (not sure if these are totally gluten free)

4. Wal-mart in Portales FINALLY has a small stock of organic food and quite a bit of non-gluten food

5. Carne Asada without tortillas at El Rancho, La Paz, or Juanito's

6. ENMU has a great big nice cafeteria on campus and for $7 you can stuff the salad plate with good non-gluten food

7. The downtown farmer's market from June through November is the best source of local organic and gluten free food at cheap prices, Mondays and Thursdays just south of the town square, and you are helping out local retired people and small farmers

8. Check out the custom meat processors (assuming you are not vegetarian) like the one next to the RV park north of Portales and down in Elida.

9. There are people selling fresh farm eggs and other items which you can find by word of mouth

10. Do Drop Inn has some decent salads, as does the Bread Basket downtown and Vines Italian Restaurant. Nothing spectacular like a real salad place, but at least decent

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[New West 2020]

If you are craving some decent Italian, the new Vines Italian Restaurant in downtown Portales is very good for home style Italian. We can't wait until they get their beer and wine license. Way better food than Olive Garden, sorry.