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Old 01-26-2019, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Okay, gotcha! That makes much more sense.

I see that this is an ACLU article. I really don't give that organization a lot of credibility when it comes to presenting a persuasive argument. I have lived in the New York/New Jersey area most of my life, and I have never seen border security there. No one that I know has ever been stopped by Border Patrol in that area. I get the northern land border being counted though.
I live in the Constitution-Free Zone in Oregon, and I see Border Patrol cars here all the time. I have never seen them set up a checkpoint, but as their manpower continues to increase, I'm sure it's just a matter of time before they do it. Apparently that is the type of society that the majority of Americans want to live in. Well actually probably not the majority, but enough to make it a reality. I fully expect to see a complete Internal Passport System in my lifetime. Nobody will be able to drive anywhere without passing through Gestapo roadblocks and showing their "papers".
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Abu Al-Qurq
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Okay, gotcha! That makes much more sense.

I see that this is an ACLU article. I really don't give that organization a lot of credibility when it comes to presenting a persuasive argument.
Well you can't just leave it at that. That's like saying you wear aluminum foil on your head and leaving it at that. Maybe there's a compelling reason we all need to know about.

Saw a compelling article on the situation here: https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/...mapped/558275/

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I have lived in the New York/New Jersey area most of my life, and I have never seen border security there.
I'm sure, day-to-day, most people in El Paso or Las Cruces don't see border security either. Coming off a little out-of-touch there.
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:25 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Well you can't just leave it at that. That's like saying you wear aluminum foil on your head and leaving it at that. Maybe there's a compelling reason we all need to know about.

Saw a compelling article on the situation here: https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/...mapped/558275/



I'm sure, day-to-day, most people in El Paso or Las Cruces don't see border security either. Coming off a little out-of-touch there.
I live in Las Cruces and am in El Paso several times a month and see CBP all the time. Never saw it in New Jersey. I have lived in both places many years.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Abu Al-Qurq
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https://www.abqjournal.com/1296117/b...ew-mexico.html

Amazing! All it took was a refugee crisis to give Americans back their rights to travel without hassle.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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https://www.abqjournal.com/1296117/b...ew-mexico.html

Amazing! All it took was a refugee crisis to give Americans back their rights to travel without hassle.
Unfortunately that move doesn't solve the problem. They still have the authority ( I believe unconstitutional authority) to set the checkpoints up again anytime they see fit. So it is only temporary relief. But it is a good thing. At least temporarily Americans will be able to travel freely again.

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“This is intended as a temporary measure,” Border Patrol said.
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Old 03-26-2019, 10:10 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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They still have the authority ( I believe unconstitutional authority) to set the checkpoints up again anytime they see fit.
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...or_checkpoints
"Constitutionality

Internal checkpoints have also been criticized for violating the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution which prohibits "unreasonable searches and seizures", although The United States v. Martinez-Fuerte has affirmed their constitutionality. The U.S. Border Patrol has stated: "Although motorists are not legally required to answer the questions 'Are you a U.S. citizen, and where are you headed?' they will not be allowed to proceed until the inspecting agent is satisfied that the occupants of vehicles traveling through the checkpoint are legally present in the U.S.".

and

Read up on: United States v. Martinez-Fuerte

At: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...artinez-Fuerte

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Old 03-26-2019, 03:44 PM
 
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I was wondering why I didn't have to stop on my way to Alamogordo Sunday. Then I heard the news that night.
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Old 04-05-2019, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Back in the day (30-45 years ago) we always used to get stopped about 30 miles north of the border. We never got upset about that. Just considered it routine.
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Old 05-02-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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Do they only have checkpoints in the direction heading away from the Mexican border or going in both directions. I haven't encountered any yet but just curious.
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Old 05-03-2019, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Silver Hill, Albuquerque
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Do they only have checkpoints in the direction heading away from the Mexican border or going in both directions. I haven't encountered any yet but just curious.
The checkpoints are generally for traffic heading away from the borders only. In some locations, they may have equipment set up to scan cars going the other direction as well, but your guess is as good as mine what these actually do.
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