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Old 05-05-2011, 01:32 PM
 
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AlisonL (still angry I guess) wrote:

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Go get yourself a VALID id and you won't have any problems.

Quite obvious to figure out.
Poncho NM wrote:

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It is very difficult for some people to maintain a valid ID Card... Not sure why, but some people get upset when their ID card expires... Or maybe, never mind....
Tator89 wrote:

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...if you dont want to show your id sorry im not selling. i dont know how its so offending? i wish someone would just explain this to me.
All this is just telling people to comply with how it's always been. That's it.

Don't anybody take this the wrong way, but I don't expect most people (but not everyone) in a town like Albuquerque NM to understand why there's such a huge difference between asking someone for an ID in a sale for alcohol if the person looks to be around the age of 21 as opposed to if the person looks to be around the age of 90. There's a basic "authoritarian" nature to the way things get done around here -- authoritarian meaning most people are never going to question the authority or the established way of doing things let alone even think twice about why, given the law, it is so ridiculous to be asking someone who is 90 years old for an ID to show they ain't a minor. What I expect to hear is people ready to comply with whoever is in charge, and that's all that matters to authoritarians. Authoritarians are also rigid traditionalists. I ain't trying to put anyone down, but I'd say that's what it does boil down to, and if you think that's too "over the top" for you, then I'm sorry but that's my humble opinion. And that's all I got to say about this.

Good day people.
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Old 05-05-2011, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Tejas
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Wait what ?

OK I will play along. Your date of birth is your date of birth. You would be 26.

Now if the State of NM starts introducing laws to curb the control of cryogenically frozen people that is a different story altogehter. Maybe put microchips in their head and require all places that sell Alcohol to have scanners in their doorways so when people walk through you know they were cryogenically frozen at some stage so you can check how long they were frozen for and take that from their date of birth which will be on their valid Drivers license. Problem solved.
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Old 05-05-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Let's add a bit of levity to this thread:

What if you were 16 years old, and cryogenically frozen (say it was a medical decision to cure some horrible disease that they were later able to cure) for 10 years, stopping all aging functions? 10 years later, thawed out and otherwise healthy, you order a drink (with an ID you just renewed).

Are you 16 or 26 with regard to the law and is that fair?
You are 26...

Your birth date was the date you were born not how long you were "cryogenically frozen". That person behind the desk issuing your ID could care less what you look like, they want the proper form, properly filled out, and some might let a few things slide....

At one time U.S. Airline Pilots had to retire at age 60, it did not mater what their physical and medical condition was... (That has changed, I think they raised it to 65).

Some 16 year old people can drink more responsibly than some 26 year old people...

Is this off topic? I dunno....

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Old 05-05-2011, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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Some 16 year old people can drink more responsibly than some 26 year old people...

Is this off topic? I dunno....

Rich
You're right. They can! (BTW, I'm 64, so I have no vested interest.)

As far as it being possibly off topic, you're in a privileged position there!
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:35 PM
 
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AlisonL (still angry I guess) wrote:
You guessed wrong. Just amazed that you'd rather waste time arguing instead of going to get a valid ID.
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Old 05-06-2011, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Alamogordo, NM
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AlisonL (still angry I guess) wrote:



Poncho NM wrote:

Tator89 wrote:

All this is just telling people to comply with how it's always been. That's it.

Don't anybody take this the wrong way, but I don't expect most people (but not everyone) in a town like Albuquerque NM to understand why there's such a huge difference between asking someone for an ID in a sale for alcohol if the person looks to be around the age of 21 as opposed to if the person looks to be around the age of 90. There's a basic "authoritarian" nature to the way things get done around here -- authoritarian meaning most people are never going to question the authority or the established way of doing things let alone even think twice about why, given the law, it is so ridiculous to be asking someone who is 90 years old for an ID to show they ain't a minor. What I expect to hear is people ready to comply with whoever is in charge, and that's all that matters to authoritarians. Authoritarians are also rigid traditionalists. I ain't trying to put anyone down, but I'd say that's what it does boil down to, and if you think that's too "over the top" for you, then I'm sorry but that's my humble opinion. And that's all I got to say about this.

Good day people.
ummm maybe i am wrong are you just upset because you think someone is telling you what to do by authority? did you ever think that maybe that person who is carding you is just doing their job. maybe their supervisors are breathing down their necks to make sure to id.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:17 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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A sign I noticed on the door to the Copper Lounge on Central Ave, ABQ:




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Old 06-08-2012, 12:02 AM
 
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Default Could not get a margarita because of my ID

I was in Carlsbad this week and I tried to order a margarita and they could not accept my ID because of the New Mexico state law that requires horizontal oriented IDs only.The new Texas IDs are vertical.I got mine in may 2011.What is the purpose of this law?Is it to make sure there is no fake IDs?Will I be able to gamble in New Mexico?Does this law apply to grocery stores,filling stations,liquor stores and Native American casinos?I'm 21 by the way?
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Old 06-08-2012, 01:02 AM
 
Location: San Angelo, TX
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I sell alcohol at a gas station in New Mexico and can tell you that the all of new Texas ID's are not verticle. In Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona-pretty much every state- when you get your license and you're 20 or younger, your ID is verticle. After you have turned 21 and go get your new license, your ID will be flipped horizontal. It has been this way for years in most states. Some states like Utah and Louisana have the state ID-not the driver license- verticle regardless of age. Some businesses will also not take your old ID and temporary license (in Texas the temporary license is a piece of paper). In New Mexico you need your old ID in order for the temporary ID to be valid (that's what it says on the back!) and some businesses still won't sell to you.

It is also not law, but the store or restaurant house policy. The only options you have are to go get a new driver license or just don't buy alcohol from that business. Don't argue with the worker, you'll lose. You can still gamble, go to 21 and over clubs, etc if you ask the worker nicely where your ID will be accepted.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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... all of new Texas ID's are not verticle. ...
... pretty much every state- ... your ID is verticle. ....
I assure you there are no verticle ID's issued in any state in the US.
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