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Old 07-03-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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All we are saying is that outdoors cats do not survive, IN GENERAL, as long as indoors cats. Some people actively dislike them and will do nasty things, cars and dogs are always a danger. I think you need to come visit if you are used to a very rural area. You would have to be over an hour out of New Orleans to find a truly rural area. And then the schools would be a crap-shoot as to quality.
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:00 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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You would have to be over an hour out of New Orleans to find a truly rural area. And then the schools would be a crap-shoot as to quality.
How about St. John or St. Charles Parishes?

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I really think y'all are going a little crazy on the cats thing. I had two cats growing up in a subdivision in Algiers, and people weren't the problem, dogs were. I live in Mid-City and there are plenty of stray cats, I don't see anybody gunning them down.
I agree, but I can honestly see why someone would want to take out cats. There are too many stray cats around here, city and suburbs. I know a few people who have problems keeping pets in their backyards become flea-infested and diseased cats are climbing fences, living in storage houses, etc. There are so many of them that people have a strong disregard for them. I definitely don't know anyone who has it out for the cats or have tried to harm them, but if we could get rid of them it would be nice.

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Old 07-03-2011, 05:13 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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The outdoors is more dangerous than the indoors for cats in urban and rural areas. It's a risk and depends on luck, I think. My last two outdoor cats both survived to be twenty years old! But I also lost two relatively young cats to feline leukemia when I was little.
My advice: put collars on them with your address so that people won't assume they're strays. Make sure they're vaccinated and FIXED! Watch them when they first venture outside and train them to stay out of neighbors' gardens. (Spray bottle). Keep them inside at night when there are more predatory wild animals. Cats get through barriers, but since you're looking at the suburbs you might try putting up a fence in the yard or something. People do it with their dogs all the time.
People do have indoor/outdoor cats here. It's not unheard of or weird, but it's frowned upon if the cats are destroying gardens, reproducing, running around in traffic, or otherwise acting like pests. You just have to understand the risks, be responsible, and keep an eye on them. Good luck!
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Old 07-04-2011, 12:19 AM
 
Location: La Isla Encanta, Puerto Rico
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Geesh. Don't ruin your marriage for the sake of the cats! They'll be fine in Lousiana. Just don't leave them outside four hours without water in the summer. I know several friends with cats in Nawlins.

As far as neighborhood/town to settle in: I've never lived in the area but worked a project for years shuttling from Houston to downtown New Orleans and staying in several extended stays. I would agree with the other posters about Slidell vs Metairie ... Metairie isn't super swankie but then neither is Slidell. New Orleans isn't like other US cities where the far-out suburbs are super-clean and nice and the inner city terrible. New Orleans has nice pockets close in and bad pockets way out and the vice-versa and most is in-between. Find a nice corner of Metairie and let your husband have a life not on the road all day. Metairie is great in that it is sort of best of both worlds - semi-suburban with newer cleaner aspects but yet very close in with all the wonderful restaurants and nightlife of the French Quarter and Garden District 15-30 minutes away - even in heavy traffic.

New Orleans is a whole different world from the UK but it will be a wonderful cultural experience for all of you - and really open up the kid's eyes to a bigger world out there. Use some caution and really research the schools in the area you decide on. Make sure the public elementary and middle school has good ratings and test scores and check out private and parachial school if they are not. BTW, there are a lot of Roman Catholic schools (sorry if you're a Henry VIII fan!) that are very good and you don't have to be Catholic. I went to elementary school in one up north even though I'm a protestant and nobody gave me a hard time and I got a good education.
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Old 07-04-2011, 01:24 AM
 
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I have just spent nearly $600 at the vets getting my cats ready to come. They are 5 years old and have had their Vaccinations every year since birth. I take great care in keeping them clean and safe. They have rabies vac and micro chipped etc... I totally understand the pain in the ass factor that cats can be with neighbours gardens. I also know what a huge change this trip would make to our lives. Its taken two years for my husband to get his visa. New Orleans looks amazing and it is part of his job so it wasn't a chocie that I had to make if you get my point? I was both excited and nervous about our trip but the cats are a major factor for the kids sake especially my two youngest ones. So getting the right place is essential. My husband is prepared for us to live out of the city and he come home at weekends?? But still I am struggling to find a 'cat friendly' place. As for education, my son is 17 so is at college right now. My 12 year is at present home schooled and I have a soon to be 4 year old? So I could home school but it may be a problem socialising if no school? Many things to think about and a very short time to organise it all. If I am honest, because the whole process took so long I kind of gave up... I should have researched a lot more than I did. Originally I was going to rent our house here in the uk to a friend and she was going to look after the cats for a year? But unfortunately thats all changed so plan B has to manifest somehow. Thanks again for all of your advice. Its great to know that there is kindness out there in such a hectic world ??
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Old 07-04-2011, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Hither and thither
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All this talk about forcing cats to stay indoors seems very very extreme. Yes, people do nasty things to cats (and dogs) and they are more susceptible to getting hit by cars--obviously--than indoor cats. But cats avoid cars far better than dogs, so it would really have to be a person deliberately trying to hit one.

I lived in a suburban area that was more built-up than Slidell but less dense than Old Metairie, and we had outdoor cats. I did lose a cat to a car once, but I also had two cats who lived probably 50 to 70% of their lives outdoors in an unfenced yard--one of them lived to 18 and the other was just a few years shy of that. I don't see the conditions here in the urban US being particularly worse than in urban UK; nasty people are everywhere, but that's also why cats usually have enough wits to avoid strangers.

If you do decide to home school, you won't be affected at all by the school district, so that may open up a huge number of areas in metro New Orleans that you otherwsie wouldn't consider. It'll be a little pricier, but you may very well consider living in the city limits--certainly it's closer to Metairie than Slidell. Just look for the low crime areas, which, unfortunately, in NOLA city limits aren't exactly abundant.
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:02 AM
 
Location: slidell, la
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I live in east side of slidell ,and there are quite some acre lot communities with 3000sqft+ houses . why is it not enough for cats?but if you let your cat run wild that's another story, your nosy neighbor might called animal control on you
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:24 AM
 
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Thank you... My husband drove out to Mandeville yesterday to take a look? I haven't spoken to him yet as to what he thinks. I was looking at Eden Isle tto? I don't want to move to the USA and annoy people with my cats. There are zillions of cats where I live especially down my road but we all seem to get on with our lives quite happily. Neighbours know each other etc...
I thought that Slidell was to area for us. I wonder if moving out to somewhere like Ocean Springs would be any different? My husband wants us to come for a holiday first but I can't see how thjat would make much difference. If we come there is no turning back for at least 1 year minimum. Because of the heat, I don't know whether the cats would roam too far anyway? They are always kept in at might here in the UK so it wouldn't be any different in the USA? The East side of Slidell sounds good with more room at the back. I will keep looking and hoping to find the right place. Thanks again for all of your input.
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:52 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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I offered my opinion here based on 6 months of my cats running semi loose (with collars, identification, microchips, vaccines, the works...) in both Harahan and Kenner. While maybe 20% of responsible cat owners actually let their cats run loose, I'm just psycho about my boys getting killed. I would have set them free before the storm, but I would not now. That's just me. Too many stray cats around and many people don't give a rip if they have collars or not! I admit I am an alarmist when it comes to animals, but I have 2 dogs and 2 cats that ARE my children. There's nowhere around here that I would ever let them run free! Of course, I don't think I'd let my cats run free ANYWHERE in a well populated area of the States. I lived in Scotland for a very short time (adopted my Russian Grey there, actually) and was amazed at their tolerance for animals. You most likely will not find that here. Sad, I know.

Again, I'm not being a troll or trying to get you upset, I've just had both worlds and I, personally, wouldn't let my cats out. Letting cats out in rural UK isn't even comparable to letting cats out in rural US, no matter where you are. I had to weigh what was worse: LOSING my boys or training them to stay inside and live a longer life. I'm sure we differ in opinion here, but this is really how I feel! My cats are not just "cats" as I'm sure many here think and it sounds like yours are not just "cats" either.

Don't NOT move here because you can't let your animals roam free. Does your husband not share your views about the cats? Can you not get here to see for yourself? Why break your human family up over some felines? I know how much my animals really are FAMILY but if it came down to me and my HUMAN family members thriving together in a new place, I'd find another way for my animals to live, for sure!

FYI: My cats were 5 and 6 when we moved here in early 2005. I had moved my 6 year old tabby from the States to Aberdeen for 6 months then moved back to the States (New Orleans) with the same tabby and a the new Russian Grey. They were semi-outdoor until one was trapped and tortured BEFORE Katrina. Maybe I'm a minority, but I don't want to see anything preventable happen to anyone's furry family members! That's why I freak out like I do! You can do what you want with your cats when you move here, but there is not a single area that's as cat friendly as where you've been. They will most likely live good lives and the worst you will assuredly have are some neighbors complaining. I guess I've just seen too much. It's up to you to decide.

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Old 07-05-2011, 02:14 AM
 
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Please listen to everyone and keep your cats totally indoors unless you build them an escape proof outdoor play area of some sort. Otherwise, you could easily lose one or both of them. And it's not any safer out in rural areas than in the cities or suburbs. Out in the country there are predators. Cats really do belong indoors for their safety.

You'll love LA no matter where you decide to live. But will the cats have to go into quarentine when you return home?
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