300 so far this year, thank New Orleans has a problem? (Jefferson: 2014, crimes)

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

It was ruled unconstitutional, which means illegal.

Doesn't make it wrong, and certainly doesn't mean it doesn't work. It does, and very well.

Originally Posted by annie_himself

Population density has much to do with it. I don't know of any poor rural area with high crime nor a poor inner city neighborhood with low crime.

I would agree here. I don't see what you are arguing about though, we were talking about poverty earlier, in that it's one factor that influences crime.

Originally Posted by annie_himself

Something like one in four black children have a parent in prison, and there majority of prisoners are non violent drug offenders. So yes. Watch the documentary 13th on Netflix, buddy.

Yeeeeah, might want to look into cause and effect. The jail doesn't cause the problem, it doesn't work backwards.

No sense responding any further. You are a liberal, we won't ever agree. I mean, I can't possibly disagree more with your logic. Just best to move on. Our worldviews are totally different.

Given your view though, not sure why you are wanting to leave New Orleans. It's the result of the type governing you claim to want.

[DeanGuitarist]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

You don't fight crime with police. You fight the root of crime which is poverty and lack of opportunity.

This is why crime will never go down. Have to keep private prisons full.

This. I can't rep enough.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by Mississippi Alabama Line

Doesn't make it wrong, and certainly doesn't mean it doesn't work. It does, and very well.

Being unconstitutional makes it wrong at this time and unless you want to subject yourself to warrantless search and seizure, I'd hope it stays that way.

I would agree here. I don't see what you are arguing about though, we were talking about poverty earlier, in that it's one factor that influences crime.

You said poverty and education were buzzwords. That's factually false.

Yeeeeah, might want to look into cause and effect. The jail doesn't cause the problem, it doesn't work backwards.

Watch 13th on Netflix. Learn about private prisons, private prison owners political campaign donations to "tough on crime" candidates, 3 strikes law, recidivism rates from 1900 to 2017, 1994 crime bill, defunding of educational and vocational opportunities in prisons, private prisons begin looking at reading levels in the 3rd and 4th grade to determine how many prisons they should build, they are preying on our children, private companies paying for prison slave labor which is legal via the 13th amendment, said companies and private prisons having a financial interest in increasing the prison population, etc. A good prison industry looks to put itself out of business. Our system looks to increase the prison population and your tax dollars fund it all.

No sense responding any further. You are a liberal, we won't ever agree. I mean, I can't possibly disagree more with your logic. Just best to move on. Our worldviews are totally different.

It's not my logic as much as it's pragmatism and facts. Follow the money. Locking people up doesn't work.

Given your view though, not sure why you are wanting to leave New Orleans. It's the result of the type governing you claim to want.

New Orleans is largely the result of regressive policy. New Orleans doesn't' invest in education, it doesn't invest in infrastructure, it doesn't invest in it's poor people, it hasn't ended the drug war, New Orleans' is in a regressive state that is similar to Mississippi, bottom of every list. So there are plenty of reasons to go to a state that helps support this country rather than suck on the teet and complain about other people sucking on the teet. The type of governing that New Orleans has is not what I want. I don't want a mayor that is concerned about his national image, nor his attention to the French Quarter whenever a big event is in town while neglecting the poor. I am a liberal I guess but I am not a Democrat. I don't like Obama, Clinton, Landrieu, nor Edwards.

California has the world's 5th largest economy for a reason. Louisiana will soon have to thank Mississippi and Puerto Rico for keeping it out of last place on every quality of life measure.

[annie_himself]

The DoD has even stated that education has become a matter of national defense.

[silverhead]

Bet you old Robert E Lee et al,will have wry smiles on their faces.

[selogic]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

The DoD has even stated that education has become a matter of national defense.

In what context ?

[annie_himself]

This is what I found in a quick Google search.
file:///C:/Users/Antrell/Downloads/TFR68_Education_National_Security.pdf

When education is an ignored national security matter | TheHill

[selogic]

Did you even read the article ? Not much there that pertains to crime , prisons , etc. It's all about training for military , national security experts , etc.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by selogic

Did you even read the article ? Not much there that pertains to crime , prisons , etc. It's all about training for military , national security experts , etc.

All of which must pass thru the American education system. Of course it's about the military, it's a report from the DoD..

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

All of which must pass thru the American education system. Of course it's about the military, it's a report from the DoD..

I don't subscribe to sheep mentality, which is what most self-serving articles are all about.

I read an article the other day about Birmingham, about how a study found that it's 'fractured' state is stifling its development. Well, duh. But the article went on to blame everyone who left, and claimed they need to either come back, be annexed it, or come under a regional government (with Birmingham keeping the power). It was all pro-Birmingham, and anti-suburbs. That's great, but they never discussed the actual problems the city itself brings to the table. Again, self-serving, and not looking at any of the opinions of suburbanites. You can't unite that way.

The DoD (and all government) wants public education to reign, so they can force feed their agendas. I don't agree or disagree with that, because agendas change, depending on who is in power. But just say that, don't hide behind some thinly veiled attempt to 'care' about diseases or the next world conflict. You don't need public education to get the information and form your own opinion. And if I don't agree with what the government is doing, NO WAY I'm going to allow them to influence my kids' thinking.

There is a reason homeschooling is rising exponentially in popularity.