Are the Pumps On?? (New Orleans, Jefferson: neighborhoods, to live, cost of)

[Chilly Gentilly]

Originally Posted by Speleothem

New Orleans Mayor Landrieu plans to fire top officials over flooding | NOLA.com

Mitch oughtta fire the President of the Sewerage and Water Board.
Oh wait...

"...it became clear that the public was misled over the agency's handling of citywide flooding on Saturday"

"The mayor made his decision to ask the Sewerage and Water Board to approve the terminations as his staff began reviewing documents that indicated Becker had not disclosed that some city pumping stations were not operating at full capacity."

Originally Posted by Jimbo_1

Are the pumps on are the bizarre comments that people like to make when they feel the city should be blamed for everything

...sigh Zzzzz

[Chilly Gentilly]

14 pumps inactive during New Orleans flooding; disabled turbines led to power issues, officials say | News | theadvocate.com

"Sewerage & Water Board Executive Director Cedric Grant told the New Orleans City Council on Monday that 14 were inactive during Saturday's flooding."

The number just keeps climbing.

[tewest86]

I guess I understand this stuff better because of my Profession. Those 7-14 wouldn't have made a bit of difference. Most of the non working pumps weren't even in the areas that flooded. Some where on the West bank, NO East, and other parts of the city. The system has issues. The pumps are only part of the system. Some of it is being replaced now if you drive throughout the city. The construction is part of SELA projects. However, alot more needs replacing. Some of the current projects most likely caused the flooding to be worst. However, you can't win no matter what you do. You can't speed up construction because local home owners and buisness owners complain when construction is going on during buisness hrs or at night. There are only certain time windows when construction can happen. You have to be delicate during construction because the alot of the buildings are on the Historic list so you can't cause too much vibration that can damage them.


It's alot that the average citizen doesn't know but lets blame someone. The public is always looking for someone to blame.

[Speleothem]

Originally Posted by tewest86

It's alot that the average citizen doesn't know but lets blame someone. The public is always looking for someone to blame.

So why the firings? To please the "public?"

[Chilly Gentilly]

Originally Posted by Speleothem

So why the firings? To please the "public?"

Some people despise accountability for reasons I do not understand. Your tax dollars pay for these services, yet somehow parish officials shouldn't be questioned...no matter how suspicious the incident

[tewest86]

Originally Posted by Speleothem

So why the firings? To please the "public?"

No one got fire. The head S&WB guy retired. He was making $210,000 yearly so guess what his pension will be. No matter who was in office, it would have flooded. He was just the lucky one there at the time. How many engineers did they interview? None. It they did, the public would hear the truth.


I think the entire board should be be replaced but not because of this. How can you have all none Engineers over the city's drainage? That makes no sense.

[Speleothem]

Originally Posted by tewest86

no one got fire. the head s&wb guy retired. He was making $210,000 yearly so guess what his pension will be. No matter who was in office, it would have flooded. He was just the lucky one there at the time. How many engineers did they interview? None. It they did, the public would hear the truth.


I think the entire board should be be replaced but not because of this. How can you have all none engineers over the city's drainage? That makes no sense.

ok

by kevin litten klitten@nola.com,
nola.com | the times-picayune
new orleans mayor mitch landrieu said tuesday (aug. 8) he wants two top officials at the sewerage & water board fired after it became clear that the public was misled over the agency's handling of citywide flooding on saturday. Landrieu also accepted the resignation of his public works director, mark jernigan, saying he has become frustrated with getting answers about how effectively the department is maintaining the drainage system.

[sibelian]

Not even 500 pumps will handle the water from a 100-year storm, which has a 1% chance of occurring every year (this storm was not considered to be a 100-year storm). The city sits as much as 7 feet below sea level, and the soil is sinking at a rate of about 2 inches per year. This storm dropped 9 inches of rain in four hours, but even when the Army finishes the current upgrades (in 2020), the pump system will only be able to handle 5 inches of rain in three hours.

It's time to bite the bullet and evacuate the city, bulldoze it, and let it return to nature. The cost will be far less than the damages incurred in recurrent future flooding and rebuilding. It's a ****hole, anyway.

[Jimbo_1]

Originally Posted by Chilly Gentilly

...sigh Zzzzz

Like mentioned, these pumps that were not operating would have likely made little difference, the city was going to flood no matter what. But your right, there diffenitely was a level of incompetence with regards to the city. Stupid ol' me trying to think the best of the city, I should have known better. Congratulations.

[Jimbo_1]

Originally Posted by sibelian

Not even 500 pumps will handle the water from a 100-year storm, which has a 1% chance of occurring every year (this storm was not considered to be a 100-year storm). The city sits as much as 7 feet below sea level, and the soil is sinking at a rate of about 2 inches per year. This storm dropped 9 inches of rain in four hours, but even when the Army finishes the upgrades (in 2020), the pump system will only be able to handle 5 inches of rain in three hours.

It's time to bite the bullet and evacuate the city, bulldoze it, and let it return to nature. The cost will be far less than the damages incurred in recurrent future flooding and rebuilding. It's a ****hole, anyway.

Quite sure this was considered a 100 year rainfall event. With that much rain flooding is inevitable in any location, just look at recent events in Houston and Baton Rouge, both located well above sea level, unless they are also considered hellholes that might as well be demolished too. Even with the torrential rain that New Orleans saw less than 10% of the city saw severe flooding, and even then, it was mostly limited to some flooded cars and a few flooded low-lying properties. Thanks for the lovely opinions though, I'm sure they will be taken into great consideration.