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Old 11-13-2017, 10:19 PM
 
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Do you know anything about the area? As I said before the area is area becoming gentrified and actually has gotten better over the last few years. And personally I think the point for closing down the shop is so the Section 8 and bums who go there will leave and find somewhere else.

I'm not afraid of drug dealers or those petty criminals. I'm good with a gun.
You seem to think that is a person is living in section 8 housing, they are bad people and need driven out .

You don't realize that everyone cannot draw a big salary, and a lot of real good people live in section 8 housing. Section 8 is more selective than you think, harder to qualify for than you think, and is for people with low incomes. Some people have to work low pay job, and not everyone can draw a top salary. You will have section 8 housing, in cities with no crime problem and no bad part of town to worry about like your neighborhood.

No the city will not close a small grocery store in a poor area of town, as poor people don't have transportation, etc., to be able to go to the nice grocery stores in better parts of town. It is necessary that stores like that exist for those that need to shop at them.

If you think your being good with a gun can protect you from those drug dealers if you start causing them trouble. I looked into it, and found that one Saturday 13 people were shot in New Orleans. As of end of May this year, there were 300 people shot in the past 12 months. And in a 365 day period ending with that 13 person in one day shot, just over 700 people had been shot. On a per capita basis, New Orleans has more murders than Chicago and Baltimore. 13 people shot in New Orleans in one day, is the equivalent of 90 people being shot in Chicago in one day to put it into perspective.

Drive by shootings are common in New Orleans. Make too many waves and you may be the next one they target.
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:08 AM
 
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Listen to oldtrader...he's correct
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:23 AM
 
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What can be done to get this house demolished or sold to an owner who will do something about this?

The current owner is said to be a private company, but it's only left it there to sit and create poor problems for the area.
One of the first steps in the process of gentrification is to locate the property owners for blighted housing and act as follows:
1) File a mowing complaint about the property with the city
2) File a condemnation request with the city citing open doors and windows along with photos
3) PM or provide here, a parcel number and address for the blighted property with the name of the owners. I will conduct a search to see if the property is adjudicated for you.


Finally, these forums are a haven for socialist trolls. They expect property owners to pacify their neighbors with cash and food to prevent crime. Basically, black mail is how they expect us to handle our civic issues.

Don't think for a minute the trolls that are harassing you in this forum topic care about you or your family. All they see is another capitalist that has money and they want to tear you down mentally for being such an evil tax payer.
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:57 AM
 
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You seem to think that is a person is living in section 8 housing, they are bad people and need driven out .

You don't realize that everyone cannot draw a big salary, and a lot of real good people live in section 8 housing. Section 8 is more selective than you think, harder to qualify for than you think, and is for people with low incomes. Some people have to work low pay job, and not everyone can draw a top salary. You will have section 8 housing, in cities with no crime problem and no bad part of town to worry about like your neighborhood.

No the city will not close a small grocery store in a poor area of town, as poor people don't have transportation, etc., to be able to go to the nice grocery stores in better parts of town. It is necessary that stores like that exist for those that need to shop at them.

If you think your being good with a gun can protect you from those drug dealers if you start causing them trouble. I looked into it, and found that one Saturday 13 people were shot in New Orleans. As of end of May this year, there were 300 people shot in the past 12 months. And in a 365 day period ending with that 13 person in one day shot, just over 700 people had been shot. On a per capita basis, New Orleans has more murders than Chicago and Baltimore. 13 people shot in New Orleans in one day, is the equivalent of 90 people being shot in Chicago in one day to put it into perspective.

Drive by shootings are common in New Orleans. Make too many waves and you may be the next one they target.
Speaking as someone who grew up in low income housing, I can say for sure that most aren't good people. There are some yes. But most are mothers who get pregnant just to receive a check and really don't care much for their children. The mothers are often times abusive, belligerent, and rude as hell, and it's no different in New Orleans. The only people I feel sorry for are the children.

Also again, it's clear you don't know what you're talking about. Because you keep taking about Jack's Meat Market as if it's a grocery store when in reality it isn't. It's sells mainly chips, soft drinks, and the occasional chicken meal. They aren't selling actual produce. Nearly every gas station in the area sells the same things. https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en..._ECNsQoioIcDAK

Here is a pic of inside the store. I beg you to tell me what is being sold here that is so vital and can't be found anywhere in the proximity.

And again you're forgetting that St. Roch Market is literally a few blocks away from where it is. So yes an even more nutritious alternative is a few blocks away.

So again, yes there is every reason for them to close down Jack's because it's a nuissance to the community and not even necessary in the neighborhood. Most residents don't even shop there. Only bums and drunks, who go for cigarettes, alcohol, and the occasional chips/soda.

Most of these drug dealers I'm supposed to be afraid of are really only petty thieves. Most honestly are only doing this because they can't find work. Most only stand on this block because they know junkies come here to get their stuff. If police started patrolling the block more they'd honestly just go find somewhere else to sell. Most drug dealers aren't out to get into more trouble than they have to.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:10 AM
 
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One of the first steps in the process of gentrification is to locate the property owners for blighted housing and act as follows:
1) File a mowing complaint about the property with the city
2) File a condemnation request with the city citing open doors and windows along with photos
3) PM or provide here, a parcel number and address for the blighted property with the name of the owners. I will conduct a search to see if the property is adjudicated for you.


Finally, these forums are a haven for socialist trolls. They expect property owners to pacify their neighbors with cash and food to prevent crime. Basically, black mail is how they expect us to handle our civic issues.

Don't think for a minute the trolls that are harassing you in this forum topic care about you or your family. All they see is another capitalist that has money and they want to tear you down mentally for being such an evil tax payer.

Thank you, at least one helpful reply. I PMed you the address.
Yes it appears I'm an evil gentrifier on this forum who should know better than wanting to remove the precious crime culture of this city.

Excuse me, for wanting to live in a safe area.

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Old 11-14-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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Another thing I want to mention is that New Marigny aka St. Roch is classified as a Historic District. So the city in itself has every reason to want to make this area a safer and more welcoming place. My house that I bought is actually an historic house. https://prcno.org/wp-content/uploads...NewMarigny.pdf




The Santo Campo cemetery is actually a tourist attraction so it would do the city well to make sure the tourist who are passing through the area feel safe. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...Louisiana.html


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A local priest prayed to Saint Roch, patron saint of plague victims, to keep his flock safe during an epidemic in 1867. When everyone came through all right, the priest made good on his promise to build Saint Roch a chapel. The Gothic result is fine enough, but what is better yet is the small room just off the altar, where successful supplicants to Saint Roch leave gifts, usually in the form of plaster anatomical parts or medical supplies, to represent what the saint healed for them. The resulting collection of bizarre artifacts (everything from eyeballs and crutches to organs and false limbs) is either deeply moving or among the greatest creepy spontaneous folk-art installations you’ve ever seen. The chapel, located on the cemetery grounds, isn’t always open despite the posted hours, so hope for the best. Go during daylight hours and use caution—this area isn't great- Diana K Schwam
Why would the city not want to upgrade an area that is a potential tourist attraction and something that is in a historic district?

People want to come to these area's but they are afraid because of the crime.

It's truly sad the city isn't investing more in the area. It's such a beautiful place with so much history.



St. Roch's Market re-opening was one step in the right direction, and as I said before the neighborhood is slowly gentrifying yet still there is still so much more to do and I definitely believe getting rid of the blight and certainly removing Jack's are crucial steps in the right direction.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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Excuse me, for wanting to live in a safe area.
If you wanted to live in a safe area you would have done your homework better, not try to come in after the fact where people live who are too poor to do anything about it.

You trying to get that store closed will likely garner you a lot of hate and your life could be at stake.

But hey, you go'on with yo bad self.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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If you wanted to live in a safe area you would have done your homework better, not try to come in after the fact where people live who are too poor to do anything about it.

You trying to get that store closed will likely garner you a lot of hate and your life could be at stake.

But hey, you go'on with yo bad self.
All I wrote and this is your response?



Like I said literally everyone who lives there wants the store closed. And besides from what I hear no area of New Orleans near the French Quarter is 100% safe. It's the community's drive and willingness to fight for their neighborhood is what makes these area's become safer.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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All I wrote and this is your response?
Your ruminations about the surrounding neighborhood mean nothing to these people. They don't have the wherewithal to do anything about it and will resent you for trying to come in and change things.

I seriously doubt you have spoken to every single person in that neighborhood. They might not care too much about the drug dealers, but few, if any, of the residents have transportation, and they like to have that store to be within an easy walk.

All you are doing is dreaming; that's why nobody is responding to you positively, because you are a foreigner trying to change something that's been the way it is for decades.

You know the old saying? "Put hope in one hand, poop in the other hand. See which one fills up first." That fits perfectly in this case.

It is what it is. New Orleans has been in a poor state of affair, long before Katrina, and even worse afterwards. You really could have picked a better place to start your gentrification project.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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Your ruminations about the surrounding neighborhood mean nothing to these people. They don't have the wherewithal to do anything about it and will resent you for trying to come in and change things.

I seriously doubt you have spoken to every single person in that neighborhood. They might not care too much about the drug dealers, but few, if any, of the residents have transportation, and they like to have that store to be within an easy walk.

All you are doing is dreaming; that's why nobody is responding to you positively, because you are a foreigner trying to change something that's been the way it is for decades.

You know the old saying? "Put hope in one hand, poop in the other hand. See which one fills up first." That fits perfectly in this case.
I really don't care about your backwoods country sayings.

I know for a fact that most if not all homeowners in the area want it gone. And again most don't even shop there. So please stop responding because it's clear you don't know what you're talking about.
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