Why are NOLA public schools considered dangerous and poor educators? (New Orleans: high crime, homes)

[hey teach]

Why are NOLA public schools considered to be so bad. I have read how they are some of the worst in the nation in more than one publication. Is the problem with poor teaching, lack of discipline and parental support? I understand there are huge drug problems. Are there no police or school resource officers in place? What about the administrative members, district superintendents, governing school boards? What is their movement approach to the problems?

[alon504]

I don't know....there are only 3 or 4 New Orleans Public Schools. The rest are charter schools and are spinning heads with their success with students. New Orleans Public Schools were terrible before Katrina. Very happy and thrilled to see almost the entire system turn into the charter school system.

[miserylovesco.]

Give it 5 years and NOLA schools will be on top of the game.
The charter school system is already turning kids with little to no options into viable students with options.

[sloth777]

I think NOLA has the most crackhead parents in any other city. And we all know that crackhead parents could care less about their children's education. That's why their kids grow up to be crackheads and gang members, and the cycle repeats. I have never seen more slums and ghettos in one city than I did on my many visits to NOLA.

[alon504]

Originally Posted by sloth777

I think NOLA has the most crackhead parents in any other city. And we all know that crackhead parents could care less about their children's education. That's why their kids grow up to be crackheads and gang members, and the cycle repeats. I have never seen more slums and ghettos in one city than I did on my many visits to NOLA.

It seems like it has been awhile since you were here. They've all been torn down since Katrina. And I didn't know any city in America still had "slums." However, we do still have areas in "recovery." I know New Orleans doesn't have slums--. Wherever you live must be the fairytale life?!? Come back to Earth, please.

[sloth777]

Definition of slum "A heavily populated urban area characterized by substandard housing."

[alon504]

Originally Posted by sloth777

Definition of slum "A heavily populated urban area characterized by substandard housing."

These are the average price of homes in every zip code in the City of New Orleans in 2008--what zip code has the slums?

70113--$140,143
70114--$175,176
70115--$419,684
70116--$387,924
70117--$225,867
70118--$500,784
70119--$208,486
70122--$200,237
70124--$354,261
70125--$264,302
70126--$145,521
70127--$137,096
70128--$175,641
70129--$153,226
70130--$405,229
70131--$241,079


source: nola.com

[sloth777]

The public housing surrounding the St. Louis Cemetery, or across the river from the French Quarter. Just walk around, you'll find them.

NOLA had over 200 murders per year until 2005, which isn't listed. In 2006, there was 162.
Denver, which has over 500,000, averaged 55 murders, between 2000 to 2007.
Boston, with a pop of almost 600,000 averaged 60 murders per year, between 200 to 2007
And just for fun, Phoenix has about the amount of murders per year as NOLA, except it's pop. is 3 TIMES that of NOLA.
Your city is dangerous. Deal with it.

[WestbankNOLA]

Originally Posted by hey teach

Why are NOLA public schools considered to be so bad. I have read how they are some of the worst in the nation in more than one publication. Is the problem with poor teaching, lack of discipline and parental support? I understand there are huge drug problems. Are there no police or school resource officers in place? What about the administrative members, district superintendents, governing school boards? What is their movement approach to the problems?

the NOLA schools are starting to improve thanks to the charters and schools like the Ben Franklins have always been good, however a lot is still left to be desired and the rest of the schools (particularly RSD) range from ok to horrible.

The problems come from:
1. Systematic corruption.
2. The fact that most middle/upper class residents send their kids to Private schools, reducing extra support for public schools.
3. Nobody with the power to change anything really cares.
4. Many troubled students don't have any ambition or anyone to show them their true potential
5. Just a combination of generational, political, and systematic problems.

The list goes on and on. Hopefully the charter schools will reverse the trends and help the NOLA youth realize their potential. The good teachers left in the city are probably the ones who really really want to make a difference. New teachers run to the Northshore because they don't want to deal with the problems but the problems can't be solved if nobody is there to try. IMHO it's really gonna take effort from all sides to make a difference. We need teachers who want to teach, students who want to learn, govt who will pay teachers more, parents to support, etc.

Originally Posted by sloth777

I think NOLA has the most crackhead parents in any other city. And we all know that crackhead parents could care less about their children's education. That's why their kids grow up to be crackheads and gang members, and the cycle repeats. I have never seen more slums and ghettos in one city than I did on my many visits to NOLA.

Huh bro. .. Ignorance and statistics do not mix.
I think ignorant comments like that do just as much damage as crack.
I mean we all know that ignorant parents produce ignorant kids who grow up not knowing s*** about s*** right? If I were to make an assumption from that comment, I would assume that dynamics surrounding crackheads, their habits, and their kids would be too complex for you to even grasp but you could be an Einstein just trying to stir up something.

Sure you have all of the statistics and what not, but take into account the dynamics and trends of NOLA crime not just the numbers and racial crap. Yeah, we have some crime problems but the average law-abiding citizen is safe, and the tourist even safer.

So you went the cemetaries and saw the Iberville and the Fischer across there river. What do you really know about NOLA? ??? ? Seriously? What do you know about life in NOLA?

Ok that's enough typing for me. lol That comment though, too kicks!

[sloth777]

While I admit, my "crackhead" comments were of bad taste, the purpose of the statistics is that the question originally was "Why are NOLA public schools considered dangerous." My response is, because the city itself has high crime. In a city with 4 times the murders of other cities its size, one can not be surprised at the danger in the schools. Trust me, I have the same complaints about Little Rock, which is close to where I live. They have a high murder rate, and a high rate of crime in the schools. And for the most part, good "law abiding citizens" in either city usually are not the parents of the kids creating the danger in schools. Thus, the "crackhead" parent comment.