I hate what happened to new york. (Crown Heights, Lincoln: coop, to live)

[DC90]

Originally Posted by durf

DC90, I guess you haven't been to San Jose at all or not since 1980's when the city was improving itself. San Jose's like Oklahoma City, Birmingham, Ala or Abuquerque? Then Washington DC is like Detroit and East St. Louis, Mo. San Jose is beautiful and vibrant that takes on New York City anytime with packs of things to do. New York is only limited Grewich Village, Soho, Times Square, EastVillage(Little Itali), West Village, 5th Ave shopping and Upper Manhattan. That's it and it gets old real fast! If you're gay, and into dying fashion industry, then New York could be ok. For everyone else, except for tourists, New York City is boring but not as bad as Washington DC. There's a crappy downtown in NYC, where 9/11 is Maybe some fools like NYC but not me. I don't know about that. I'm sure not the only one who think New York City is overrated and boring. You can like it, DC90, and have it. I guess we agree to disagree to end this silly thread. I check out, and I'm not convinced. I've been to the "Apple" many times since 1978 and know this city to the back of my head. Where's Grand Prix, Olympic, Star Trek exhibit, Leonard Di Vinci exhibit, tour of New York bike race, until 2012, Superbowl, and gallery walk with all the food, music, drinks and art every month in New York? How about the X games? Nothing doing in New York City. It's just the city with noisy energy. Quality of life in New York City stinks like crap, even for the rich people. Sorry.

1. Quality of life sucks for rich people, yet NYC remains most elite city in the world. It seems as if the rich disagree with you. Rich people know what's best for them, and they've chosen NYC over and over. From the corporate world, to the international elite to celebrities. It is the billionaire capital of the world, after all.

2. Nobody agrees with anything you've said.

3. NYC bores you, yet you've spent hours arguing NYC on an NYC forum. LOL. Do New Yorkers go onto Birmingham/San Jose/Orlando/Reno/Podunk, Kentucky forums trying to convince them how boring their respective cities are? Nope. The mere fact you're on here reeks of jealousy.

4. San Jose is a hellhole.

Ciao

[SeventhFloor]

Originally Posted by DC90

1. Quality of life sucks for rich people, yet NYC remains most elite city in the world. It seems as if the rich disagree with you. Rich people know what's best for them, and they've chosen NYC over and over. It is the billionaire capital of the world, after all.

2. Nobody agrees with anything you've said.

3. San Jose is a hellhole.

Ciao

just wanted to reiterate what should be the focal point of this thread:

only color gentrification knows is GREEN

carry on...

[newarkboy]

Originally Posted by ThroatGuzzler

Are there still Italian neighborhoods anymore like in the Soprano's?

The Soprano's are from Newark NJ not NYC , you no the city that has a hockey team that Is ten times better then the Maple Leafs !

[RyzinEnagy]

1) NYC still has trendy neighborhoods. However, a trend, by definition, is temporary and is going to change. I'm sure the people in Williamsburg will move on with their lives and then, 30 years down the line, complain that Williamsburg is simply not the way it used to be. I'm sure Mexicans 10 years down the line will long for the way Bushwick was in the 90s.

2) There are plenty of reasons why you're paying $1000 for that studio. One, crime is down, making NYC a desirable place for the upper middle class and the wealthy. In the 80s these people were moving into McMansions on the North Shore of LI and northern NJ, but now they're far more likely to stay in Manhattan, Park Slope, and Riverdale. I saw someone complaining about seeing yuppies in the subway with their Starbucks and Fiji bottles, but the fact that the subway has become a viable way to commute for people of all walks of life makes NYC a viable place for the wealthy to stay in as well (on that note, stop complaining about the way subway fares used to be when today's subway is an infinitely more enjoyable experience than it was even 20 years ago). Two, the drop in rents haven't coincided with the drop in house prices (how many landlords want to give up that profit?), and since NYC is a city of renters and the demand for apartments hasn't dropped significantly, the rents aren't going to drop to pre-2000 levels, probably ever. Three, the immediate suburbs were once a cheaper alternative but this is certainly not the case today. If you want "cheaper" you're going to have to move to places like Orange County, eastern Suffolk, and northwest or southern NJ, where most people aren't willing to commute into the city. This also drives demand upward in the city.

3) I'm sure that back in the 80s the Irish were longing for the days of Tammany Hall, the Germans in the 60s were longing for the days of Little Germany, and blacks in the 70s and 80s were longing for Harlem during the jazz age. The city has been constantly morphing and will continue to do so for as long as NYC exists.

4) The fact that gentrification is occurring means that a lot of people are moving in and out of neighborhoods (this was especially true during the real estate boom of the early 2000s) and people haven't been around each other long enough to form a bond. Bonds these days are going to be much harder to form because of technology, like a couple of others in this thread have stated. Instead of partaking in community events and engaging in general socialization with your immediate peers, you're sitting in front of your laptop complaining about the way NY used to be, with complete strangers that you're unlikely to become friends with in real life. Others are simply watching TV, taking advantage of the fact that they have hundreds of channels at their disposal rather than the handful that existed before the rise of cable. Technology has it's pros and cons, and this is one of the cons.

[Northsider 248]

Originally Posted by jordandubreil

your like the typical ignorant american that goes by the ignorant news reports America give out by bashing a whole city or country.

what if this op ends up in a nice part of Detroit will that person really wished yuppies came in a quick second.

Take it from a Michigander. We detroiters NEED yuppies. And freaking bad. The only soul we have in our city is the soles of the shoes people get ghetto stomped with.

[SanD80]

Didn't Dionne Warwick ask, "Do you know the way to San Jose?" HAHAHA!

I like how a tourist (Dorf or Durf whatever) that went to the lamest clubs has the nerve to comment about NYC. Tourists are the biggest idiots ever. I liked that ART on the sidewalks that divided New Yorkers and Tourists.

[cyrusjul]

Why does this durf person visits NYC many times but still hates it?? Why come and spend your money here? I guess deep inside he needs to come here because his little city San Jose is not big enough to enjoy. I mean do New Yorkers travel to San Jose a lot?? LOL. Didn't think so. So no. You do not know NYC enough no matter how many times you claim you come here. I mean really, you want us to believe San Jose is better than NYC??? LOL! Maybe is a nice city, but will never be a world class city as NYC.

[nycjowww]

Originally Posted by durf

DC90, I guess you haven't been to San Jose at all or not since 1980's when the city was improving itself. San Jose's like Oklahoma City, Birmingham, Ala or Abuquerque? Then Washington DC is like Detroit and East St. Louis, Mo. San Jose is beautiful and vibrant that takes on New York City anytime with packs of things to do. New York is only limited Grewich Village, Soho, Times Square, EastVillage(Little Itali), West Village, 5th Ave shopping and Upper Manhattan. That's it and it gets old real fast! If you're gay, and into dying fashion industry, then New York could be ok. For everyone else, except for tourists, New York City is boring but not as bad as Washington DC. There's a crappy downtown in NYC, where 9/11 is Maybe some fools like NYC but not me. I don't know about that. I'm sure not the only one who think New York City is overrated and boring. You can like it, DC90, and have it. I guess we agree to disagree to end this silly thread. I check out, and I'm not convinced. I've been to the "Apple" many times since 1978 and know this city to the back of my head. Where's Grand Prix, Olympic, Star Trek exhibit, Leonard Di Vinci exhibit, tour of New York bike race, until 2012, Superbowl, and gallery walk with all the food, music, drinks and art every month in New York? How about the X games? Nothing doing in New York City. It's just the city with noisy energy. Quality of life in New York City stinks like crap, even for the rich people. Sorry.

this goof is just a ny hater hating on great city.


what city in america have you been to thats "better" and has more then nyc?

in fact you said nyc is boring which i find funny as hell , so please tell me what city have you been to that's less boring?

[Bronxguyanese]

manhattan yawn. For real ny fun try the outer boroughs.

[nycjowww]

also i am wiling to bet victorfox is a coward in real life who spits out racial slurs online just for attention.

and also i am willing to bet victorfox shakes hands with blacks and see,s successful blacks everyday in nyc( like everyone) probably more then his latino people. victorfox is a attention *****

and victorfox please stop talking about the "TRUTH" cause your latino people live in worse conditions then blacks in nyc. so cool it buddy.

and last but not least gentrification is effecting loads of hispanic areas(east harlem, washington heights, sunset park etc) but off coarse i guess you knew that to