I hate what happened to new york. (White Plains, Roosevelt: vs., statistics)

[nycjowww]

Originally Posted by queensgrl

The following majority black neighborhoods have had fewer crime complaints year-to-date (2010) than in the majority Hispanic 43rd Precinct in The Bronx. I believe these statistics provide an indication of the level of danger in each community.

43rd Precinct (Bronx, 10472) - 1,083
67th Precinct (Brooklyn, 11226) - 1,062
113th Precinct (Queens, 11434) - 947
69th Precinct (Brooklyn, 11236) - 469
28th Precinct (Manhattan, 10027) - 434
101st Precinct (Queens, 11691) - 309

Sources: NYPD City Wide Crime Statistics & City-Data.com Zip Code Detailed Profiles.

If you care to dispute these stats, you need to take it up with the sources.

One last note on gentrification. The first wave of change in many currently gentrified neighborhoods was not white yuppies or hipsters. It was professional blacks who moved into those areas in the 90s when no one else wanted to live there. We were the catalyst of change and brought a level of community pride, business and home ownership, and safety. The rest followed. So if it's your desire to eliminate thugs and characteristically low class, ghetto people from your neighborhoods, you might want to embrace us instead of putting us down.

thnk you for providing the crime stats because super mario and andez were claiming otherwise.

i found it funny that super mario was bragging about the criem rates of washington heights to uws , but didnt know about these stats same with andez lol.

thnks

[nycjowww]

Originally Posted by victorfox

Jordan...I said that to get under your skin which by the way I succeeded since you think black people are clean cut, humble, non-ghetto people who bother no one and mind their own business. Lol. I know the housing law inside out and as long as a landlord follows their rental criteria and apply it to every applicant, there is no issue and your claim of blacks being discriminated against are unfound and unprovable. That's the bottomline.

Did you know that you can deny an apartment to a smoker and it's not considered discrimination because smokers are NOT a protected class. Bet you didn't know that.

So if Raheem Jones comes to view an apartment and the landlord, manager or agent sees him finishing up his cigarrette before entering the building, they have a right to deny his application and disqualify him as a prospective tenant because he's a smoker not because he's black! But of coarse you gonna try to flip it and say it's because he's black.

Now let's take this a little step further. How many "ghetto" people are smokers and have that "addictive" personality? I would say more smokers than non smokers right? Oh BAM! Without me saying or doing anything more than half the "ghetto" applicants will disqualify themselves. Smoking is just one avenue you can take to disqualify ghetto people. You have credit score of 650 or better, previous evictions, criminal record, etc. All those are excellent tools to use to cleanse a building or neighborhood from ghetto people. And it's all LEGAL!!!! Landlords reading this...pay attention as I've just showed you how to legally cleanse your building/neighborhood from ghetto people trying to move in and mess it up for you and all the decent residents. Good luck!

i never said all black people are humble , especially due to the fact that not every black person is african american and we have different ethnicities.

i just simply didn't understand your point when you said the Bronx was destroyed by blacks when the bronx was always majority Hispanic since forever now.

the only true black parts of the bronx is the north bronx where the crime is lower then the south and area most def inst destroyed and its a middle class primarily Jamaican neighborhood.

[ambermerci]

I'm from providence ri, have lived in several states all over the country and have extensively visited states...
And I will say one thing..I love new york city.
There's no place like it.
Sure there are gritty areas, but there are everywhere.
And contrare to popular belief, new yorkers are the most frieldliest helpful people in the usa.
I've been to bronx, brooklyn, queens, manhattan, harlem, etc..and it has all been wonderful.
I've experienced much more crime in providence.
Believe that.

[holden125]

Originally Posted by Ziasforever

Colorado? Huh? It seems to me that most NYer's are attempting to fill CO and the Southwest in general as fast as they possibly can.

And vice versa

Originally Posted by Ziasforever

I miss the days before NY and New England made the Southwest like Boston!

Oh yeah, every time I've been in the Southwest my first thought was that it's just like Boston.

You should be so lucky.

[queensgrl]

I would like to get back to the original statement. NYC is a great, world class city but it has it's drawbacks, especially for middle income people.

They say that a picture paints 1000 words, so here are a couple.

1. My first grade class in Queens, NY.
2. Teenagers hanging out in my Queens, NY neighborhood.

I miss this amazing neighborhood that was established for young middle class families. My public school rivaled many private and parochial schools, which is apparent from the professional status of the black and white kids who grew up there and are now in their 40s. I actually work across the hall from one of my 1st grade white friends.

The demographic mix also included a decent amount of elderly, who found a nice, safe location and the opportunity to socialize with others of their age. It was really lovely to see the elders sitting outside on benches, chatting with their friends among the kids riding bikes.

I cannot think of any neighborhood in NYC today that rivals this. I certainly can't think of any that offer the combination of a mixed demographic (including black middle class) safety, and good schools, which is affordable for a middle income family with a few kids.

If I am wrong, please let me know cause I want to move there

[DoubleXAs]

Originally Posted by queensgrl

The following majority black neighborhoods have had fewer crime complaints year-to-date (2010) than in the majority Hispanic 43rd Precinct in The Bronx. I believe these statistics provide an indication of the level of danger in each community.

43rd Precinct (Bronx, 10472) - 1,083
67th Precinct (Brooklyn, 11226) - 1,062
113th Precinct (Queens, 11434) - 947
69th Precinct (Brooklyn, 11236) - 469
28th Precinct (Manhattan, 10027) - 434
101st Precinct (Queens, 11691) - 309

Sources: NYPD City Wide Crime Statistics & City-Data.com Zip Code Detailed Profiles.

If you care to dispute these stats, you need to take it up with the sources.

One last note on gentrification. The first wave of change in many currently gentrified neighborhoods was not white yuppies or hipsters. It was professional blacks who moved into those areas in the 90s when no one else wanted to live there. We were the catalyst of change and brought a level of community pride, business and home ownership, and safety. The rest followed. So if it's your desire to eliminate thugs and characteristically low class, ghetto people from your neighborhoods, you might want to embrace us instead of putting us down.

There is one problem with this though. The amount of crime complaints is largely dependant on the amount of people in the precinct. The 43rd precinct is one of the largest precincts population wise, so it's usually the busiest Bronx precinct. It's crime rate howerever, is relatively low when compared to it's neighboring 41st or 42nd precinct.

To make your point valid either get 2 precincts that are similar population wise and compare the crime complaints. Or you can find precinct population numbers and use it to find a ratio of "crime complaints/total pop".

[DoubleXAs]

Originally Posted by jordandubreil

i never said all black people are humble , especially due to the fact that not every black person is african american and we have different ethnicities.

i just simply didn't understand your point when you said the Bronx was destroyed by blacks when the bronx was always majority Hispanic since forever now.

the only true black parts of the bronx is the north bronx where the crime is lower then the south and area most def inst destroyed and its a middle class primarily Jamaican neighborhood.

The 47th precinct was the murder capital of the Bronx last year.

[DoubleXAs]

Originally Posted by jordandubreil

thnk you for providing the crime stats because super mario and andez were claiming otherwise.

i found it funny that super mario was bragging about the criem rates of washington heights to uws , but didnt know about these stats same with andez lol.

thnks

I defended you. I mentioned that Hunts Point was 70% hispanic and had more crime than virtually any other neighborhood in the city. How quickly you forget.

What she posted up was bogus too.

But it still stands that GENERALLY AA neighborhoods are worse than Latino ones. You can't dispute this. When you have hispanic hoods like WH and JH and Corona with lower crime rates than SSJ, ENY, BW, BS etc

[Andez]

Originally Posted by queensgrl

The following majority black neighborhoods have had fewer crime complaints year-to-date (2010) than in the majority Hispanic 43rd Precinct in The Bronx. I believe these statistics provide an indication of the level of danger in each community.

43rd Precinct (Bronx, 10472) - 1,083
67th Precinct (Brooklyn, 11226) - 1,062
113th Precinct (Queens, 11434) - 947
69th Precinct (Brooklyn, 11236) - 469
28th Precinct (Manhattan, 10027) - 434
101st Precinct (Queens, 11691) - 309

Sources: NYPD City Wide Crime Statistics & City-Data.com Zip Code Detailed Profiles.

If you care to dispute these stats, you need to take it up with the sources.

One last note on gentrification. The first wave of change in many currently gentrified neighborhoods was not white yuppies or hipsters. It was professional blacks who moved into those areas in the 90s when no one else wanted to live there. We were the catalyst of change and brought a level of community pride, business and home ownership, and safety. The rest followed. So if it's your desire to eliminate thugs and characteristically low class, ghetto people from your neighborhoods, you might want to embrace us instead of putting us down.

Why are you supporting him? You do know he's lying about his claims... I never once said no Hispanic area is more dangerous than a predominately black neighborhood... I know there are some, such as Bushwick and some precincts in The Bronx... I DID however say the worst precincts ARE predominately BLACK. Sheesh how difficult is that to understand?

[Andez]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

I defended you. I mentioned that Hunts Point was 70% hispanic and had more crime than virtually any other neighborhood in the city. How quickly you forget.

What she posted up was bogus too.

But it still stands that GENERALLY AA neighborhoods are worse than Latino ones. You can't dispute this. When you have hispanic hoods like WH and JH and Corona with lower crime rates than SSJ, ENY, BW, BS etc

Yup and Sunset Park in Brooklyn which I'd say is probably the safest outta all those...