Anyone else thinking of leaving NYC? (New York, Portland: sublet, apartment, rent)
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i LOVE the brattleboro food co-op!!!! my husband and i go there and stay at b&bs a few times a year. that downtown is so quaint and cute - i love it. i think that if i had to pick a city in vt area that i love the most it would be brattleboro. i could live there too.. we think that every time we visit we don't want to leave. we're both vegan so we love that co-op and lots of the restaurants in the area. my parents were big hippies and i guess i always feel at home in towns like brattleboro.
you should try out:
-"chicago diner". i'm not too crazy about it, but they do have some good items (fake meat stuff, soy milkshakes)
-i've heard "karen's" is pretty good
-"Rez's" (middle-eastern) and "clay oven" (indian), both downtown, have lunch buffets with a good selection of vegan stuff
-"soul food vegetarian" has some pretty decent stuff on the south side
-"hot doug's" (gourmet hot dog place) has a veggie dog that i think is vegan
-haven't really come across good chinese yet. i want to try this place called "happiness" on milwaukee avenue before i leave
Yep. Born and raised here, but I HATE it immensely!! Presently, I've lived in the suburbs for the past (nearly) fourteen years, but prior to that, I lived in The Bronx and worked in Manhattan. While I miss the Bronx of old, I don't miss working downtown, the crowds, the subways and "the attitude" (though, not everyone has it, but you know the ones that do!)
I've always wanted to live out West (specifically places like Colorado, or anywhere in the Rocky Mountain Region), but because I have absolutely no family out there, I am afraid to make that kind of a move..so instead, I obsess over some kind of compromise so that I can be out of New York, but live closer to family. Thought of PA for awhile, then upstate New York, then parts of New England (like Vermont, in particular)..and 'round and 'round I go! Can't seem to make up my mind about a good "substitute" to what I really want (mountains and city amenities in a country-like atmosphere-not too rural, not too urban). I don't drive (afraid to, plus can't afford it, anyway), so that limits my choices, too. Also have costs to consider (Saratoga Springs sounds lovely; younger sis is a half hour North of there, but too expensive on a single person's salary). Come to think of it, anything is too expensive on a single person's salary! ;-)
Anyway..so that is my dilemma. Glad to see I'm not the only "native" that can't stand where they live.
and now "Bloomy" wants to do congestion pricing. That's great in one way, but it's also going to cause a lot of people from the burbs to park in the outer boroughs and take the train into Manhattan. So it will create more parking problems in the outer boroughs. They city gov't only cares about Manhattanites.
I was just in Florida--it has it own problems but it's so much better than this place--even so-so places like Orlando are more liveable.
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Originally Posted by GottaGetOuttaHere
Yep. Born and raised here, but I HATE it immensely!! Presently, I've lived in the suburbs for the past (nearly) fourteen years, but prior to that, I lived in The Bronx and worked in Manhattan. While I miss the Bronx of old, I don't miss working downtown, the crowds, the subways and "the attitude" (though, not everyone has it, but you know the ones that do!)
I've always wanted to live out West (specifically places like Colorado, or anywhere in the Rocky Mountain Region), but because I have absolutely no family out there, I am afraid to make that kind of a move..so instead, I obsess over some kind of compromise so that I can be out of New York, but live closer to family. Thought of PA for awhile, then upstate New York, then parts of New England (like Vermont, in particular)..and 'round and 'round I go! Can't seem to make up my mind about a good "substitute" to what I really want (mountains and city amenities in a country-like atmosphere-not too rural, not too urban). I don't drive (afraid to, plus can't afford it, anyway), so that limits my choices, too. Also have costs to consider (Saratoga Springs sounds lovely; younger sis is a half hour North of there, but too expensive on a single person's salary). Come to think of it, anything is too expensive on a single person's salary! ;-)
Anyway..so that is my dilemma. Glad to see I'm not the only "native" that can't stand where they live.
Consider Brattleboro,VT. Major small town, in semi-rural area, with lots of amenities and transplanted New Yorkers. Very bohemian. There has been a lot of press about nudity there, but, from what I've been told, it has been blown way out of proportion. There is clean air, clean water, little crime, no hurricane danger. The only real threat is a nearby nuclear power plant, and how much of a threat it is is debated.
But the economy is tough. If you don't have professional skills, you will have a lot of trouble finding a job with a liveable wage. The cost of living is high. I live in Brooklyn, and the costs of health clubs, food, etc. is comparable to Brooklyn.
Also, outside a city, you will need to learn to drive to get around. I've read that Burlington has good public transportation, but not Brattleboro.
Burlington also has an airport, that can get you to JFK in 45 minutes. Brattleboro has a train every day to Penn Station.
If you learn to drive and if you acquire a trade or profession, then you will have a lot more flexibility in choosing where to live.
I have had this love-hate relationship with New York for many years. I was born in the Bronx and moved to long Island in the mid-80s. Came back to the Bronx in the early 90s. I love the area I live in; however, it's too expensive to buy here. The houses are north of $600,000 for a small semi-attached house with a yard the size of a shoe box. It's absurd. Plus the school's are not good, so you spend even more money on private schools. It's just not worth it.
It's a great city and at times I can't imagine myself living anywhere else. However, I'm at the stage in my life where I want to start a family and NY just isn't the place. We're currently looking at homes in Connecticut. We figured it's a happy medium, as we have family and friends in Westchester, NJ, and PA. It's much different then NY and frankly...quite boring. However, life is what you make it. It's about quality of life for us. Plus...the city is still within driving distance if we want to come into NYCfor something.
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