Is there problems between the Albanians and Blacks/Hispanics in the Bronx? (New York: middle school, live)

[Roadcruiser1]

What the hell. We already have a black president, and racism with people fighting each other, because of skin color still exist?. What kind of nation am I living in?. Is this the bloody Confederate States of America. So can we all please stop fighting, and hating each other, and get along?. This is the reason why I hate mankind. No man can control themselves. Dogs think, and like each other better then us. It's like mankind has some sort of mental illness in their brains as soon as they are born to kill each other.

[M-16]

Originally Posted by Lefteri

Albanians, despite being a European ethnicity, are among the most violent and racist groups on the planet. I am Greek, and I can tell you the truth about them. Albanians are to Greece what Mexicans are to the United States. They do the farm work, house work, and take all the menial low paying jobs. Yet at the same time, they are extremely aggressive, thieving, and many of them are muslims and see their crimes as part of a holy jihad against the western nations which they have hypocritically moved into in search of prosperity. The United States must not make the mistake of thinking that because Albanians are from the European continent, they will inevitably be better citizens than anything from south of the border. Keep this roving gangs out of the United States by sealing not only illegal immigration, but ensuring that legal immigrants are the cream of the crop. There are plenty of good men and women around the globe that would immigrate to the United States if given the chance. The standards must be raised.

Well, with an idiot of your caliber I better write everything in bullet points.

1.) Albanians are not of European ethnicity because an European ethnicity does not exist, sorry. There is a European continent, and many ethnicities within this continent. I think you may want to refrase.
2.) Amongst the most violent groups around the world? I do not think that you know what you are talking about. The worst discrimination in Europe takes place in Greece and Serbia. I am sure you are not aware of that however. And, if you think that your being Greek entitles you to some knowledge, than you are bluffing because that discrimination would have been mentioned, but it wasn't.
3.) As far as your comparison of Albanians to Mexicans goes, I believe that again, as it appears to be a habit of yours, you are wrong. If I am not mistaken it is Greece that is in deep deep trouble with the EU. It is Greece that the EU is actually considering of kicking out of the European Union because of their expansive debt, but yet, the EU is perfectly happy with the progress Albania is making.
4.) Now, for the best argument you made all night. Albanians and Jihad??? Well, that, as far as you personally are concerned, proves one, or both, of two things; a.) You are as ignorant as a monkey, or b.) You are out here trying to post an agenda of yours.
Now, let me get back and explore your argument about Albanians being a part of Jihad. Just for your knowledge, despite the fact that Albanians are aproximately 70% muslim, Albania is one of the most secular states, with a muslim majority, in the world (if you need me to explain the word secular to you, check a dictionary). I will give you some quick evidence. Turkey is one of the most successful muslim states in the world. However, because of their islamic nature, or rather should I say, western worlds' understanding of Turkey as an overly islamic state, has led Turkey into being unable to enter the EU. At the same time, Albania has had their visas liberalized, which means they can go in and out of Europe as they please, and are well on their way to being a part of Europe. So, if you have any special knowledge that the rest of the world does not know about an assumed Albanian affiliation to Jihad, then man, you should share it.

Finally, do not bring this propaganda crap here or anywhere else man. Why would you want to hurt innocent people that might not even fit into that stereotype of yours? That is not cool. Also, remember that about each and every lie you say, there is always someone that knows the truth.

If you need more evidence about what I wrote above feel free to ask.


Cheers.

[shqipe4ever]

If GREECE was like USA you wouldn't be IN DEEEEEP **** the only thing you do is BURN YOUR BUILDINGS nothing is going fine DOWN THERE IN GREECE OR SERBIA YOU ARE THE SAME..The most part of Greece history is faked trying to name all heroes as GREECE and other things and what is left??..you proved world you cant stand as a country i think you should give back PARTS of MACEDONIA, ALBANIA BACK QAMERIA because they are not yours. And one more thing..you couldnt FADE THE ALBANIAN RACE,KOSOVO IS INDEPENDENT PREPARE FOR THE BIG ALBANIA VERY SOON SOMETHING CLOSE TO 10million than you will talk again who works for who LAST THING..you know why there are threads about ALBANIANS SO MUCH??..not because they make trouble its more that no1 can fight em back now you come here and say bad words..go in bronx and say something to them and well see how long you live ..cheers

UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA
ALBANIA 4 EVER
WE ARE EVERYWHERE
SHQIPE 4 EVER

[shqipe4ever]

only talking about ALBANIANS shows that we are in the CENTER OF EVERYTHING..WE RULE EVERYWHERE, yes we are the "WORST" if you want to call it like that..

NOTEON'T MESS UP WITH US IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET HURT.

SHQIPE 4 EVER

CHEERS ALL SHQIPE'Z <3
pershendetje krejt shiptarve ka jon e mas shumti atyne n USA. KREJT KOSOVA e SHIQPNIA E SHIPTARIA O ME JUVE

[progmac]

wow, even on city data we are having a balkan debate, complete with calls for a greater albania!

shqiperia eshte nje vend shume shume interesant me histori te mijera te vite dhe me disa me i mikprites te bote. gjuhen eshte teper i komplikuar per mua, por provoj!

[Woozle]

Wow. We really need immigration reform in this country. Apart from immediate family members (spouses and children UNDER 18, that's it), the only ones who should be allowed to come here should be people with college degrees (at least). Or just make everyone take the SAT test, and take the annual limit of the top scorers in that particular year.

[Mistertee]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

I've heard this about Serbs too, but keep in mind that a Bosnian(which we have quite a few in this part of the state) told me this.

Bosnians immigrated heavily to Binghamton and the 'Cuse. They have also startd their fair share of trouble. The advantage for them is that the cops tend to go easy on them coz they're white. The Bosnians in Binghamton that I know made a name for themselves and nobody messes with them. I like them but like someone else stated their culture take precedence over everything.

[Mistertee]

Originally Posted by bluedog2

Coolchris,it sounds like YOU might have a bit of a problem with Albanians , which I guess would make sense since you started this thread.

Ironically(or perhaps not),you also started a thread a week or so ago asking about Pelham Parkway.I told you it's a great neighborhood but if you have any kind of problem at all with Albanians it's definitely not a neighborhood for you because it has more Albanians than any neighborhood in NYC. Albanians own most of the apartment buildings and businesses in the neighborhood and the Albanian language is commonly heard on Lydig Ave and White Plains Rd.

There wasn't a "hostile take over" of the neighborhood.They tend moved into Italian neighborhoods because they have so much in common with Italians.Their cultures are very similar,they share many physical characteristics and they share the Catholic church.The Italians don't view the influx of Albanians as an invasion at at all.

Albania is only 45 miles from Italy so you can imagine how much intermingling there has been over the centuries.In many ways they are almost the same people.

With regard to the Italians....the Albanians used to be and still are hitmen for the Mob. Many have moved into Italian neighborhoods but there are clashes when the youth are involved. Not all the time but enought to warrant attention. I have to make a serious observation. Whenever I hung out with my Albanian friends, they really have it good. The cops never, ever harass them and they get away with things that I wouldn't be able to. I am not trying to flame or bait but that is the reality. I am happy for them coz they got it good. No hate, just envious you know.

From what I see, the white cops see the Albanian kids as trying to make a name for "white folk" in predominantly minority borough. Some sort of twisted, distorted perception of 'pride."

[Mistertee]

Originally Posted by bluedog2

Pretty much right except the neighborhoods the Albanians moved into were not and still are not ghetto/hood neighborhoods at all.For the most part they moved into thriving Italian middle class neighborhoods.

As I mentioned in an earlier post,the Albanian people and culture are amazingly similar to Italians.I travel in Italy every year and speak Italian so I have gotten to know the Italian culture quite well.Now I live in an Albanian neighborhood and I really can't believe how similar they are in every respect.The Albanians sometimes buy Italian restaurants and pizza places and don't change the name or the menu.They just keep running it as the same old Italian restaurant and nobody can tell the difference.So it's definitely the Italian affinity that was most important.

Why they came into Pelham Parkway and Morris Park and didn't go to places like Bay Ridge I can't answer for sure but it may have been money.The Albanians came with an ingrained desire to own real estate and they also seem to have arrived with some money.Not lots but some.They didn't arrive destitute like a lot of immigrants.Maybe they came to the Italian neighborhoods in The Bronx because they were cheaper than the Italian neighborhoods in Brooklyn or Queens.They certainly started buying up the place in short order. Many Albanians who have been in the Pelham Parkway neighborhood for only 20 years own multiple apartment buildings! Same reason a lot of people from other boroughs are moving to The Bronx right now.Money goes a lot further here.

In Italy, there is a huge problem with the influx of illegal Albanians. The neighborhoods weren;t cheaper, the landlords would open up their vacant apt's to them. The culture was totally alien as it is European and they were white. You might not wan to accept it but Racism is still alive and kicking just a not in the open as much. There are areas that won;t sell real estate to you if you are not white. I know because my family has experienced it. The Albanians who brought buildings in the 80's and 90's brought money fro Europe where it was accumulated thru various means. What they have done right when they came to America, is that most move to places where there is a huge population of them. It helps living near your ethnic community at least for newcomers because they can depend on each other for support. It's amazing from what've I seen, the way they pool resources, exchange knowledge on various subjects, look at any "angles" to exploiting the system (not true all the time but enough to open your eyes), etc

[Kj145]

Hi im albanian & I just wanted 2 say parents r different my dad always tells me if any1 picks on me or my lil bro I stand up 2 them if they curse @ me I curse @ them if they push me I push back if they hit me then u go full on fight mode yea can u believe it we get this from our parents but it explains a lot don't it lol (it's never had 2 go past cursing)