Is Bushwick, Brooklyn safe??? (Syracuse, Adams: transplants, zip code, to move)
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Aren't Bushwick Houses technically in East Williamsburg? I bike past them all the time and it doesn't seem like they should be the source of much concern for passersby...
Central Ave has projects? Never noticed that. I wonder how many of the hipsters living in the area have haha
You know in your previous comments when you were discussing East Williamsburg I was actually doubting myself... I was thinking maybe I was getting confused with Southside and that grigou has a shred of objectivity and sincerity and that I was letting the neighborhoods past affect my opinion of it... Now after hearing this comment I know for a fact you are simply another one of those people looking to convince everyone that the hood is safe and they have nothing to worry about and wouldn't give a care in the world if something were to happen to them for false advertising...
Bushwick Houses are right on the Borderline of East Williamsburg and Bed-stuy but they are most certainly in Bushwick and while they aren't as bad as they used to be... the fact is they are still bad and there are a number of gang members that live in that project building... But I am sure that you will tell me just like you did with Bushwick and Grand St. by the L that there is no gang presence and the area is completely safe... You're credibility just went out the window with that one... Again... thank you for proving me point
A good portion of the crime in East Williamsburg originates around Bushwick/Hylan. Most of the murders occurred near there. I wouldn't put them off so easily.
U think so? I think it more comes from the projects on Manhattan Avenue, Seigel Street, Moore Street, more in that area. That area looks and feels much worse. I think the tallness of Bushwick Houses intimidates people more than anything. There was guys hanging around, but didn't look any different than the same project bums around my way. So maybe that's why I was so passive.
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Moffat Street and Cooper Street are in Bushwick. There's lots of projects in Bushwick. You have those little 3 story buildings on Central Avenue, you have those big buildings on Wilson Avenue and Menahan Street (i dont know the names of those 2), and you have Bushwick Houses at Flushing and Bushwick Avenues. I just walked past Bushwick Houses on Sunday. They look rough, but not as bad as one would think.
To me, the projects by Flushing Avenue/Bushwick Avenue are in East Williamsburg. Bushwick proper doesn't start until Myrtle Avenue (or at least the other side of Flushing Avenue).
There are a lot of projects south of Broadway, but that would be Bed-Stuy.
And those 3 story ones were the ones I was referring to by Gates Avenue. I didn't realize they were officially projects (I mean, I always thought of projects as being taller).
No thats really only typical in NYC... most of the project buildings that I've seen in other cities in Mass, CT, California, Florida, they're just like that and beyond ghetto looking... At least these don't look that bad but they are as shady as it gets for the neighborhood... And where the Bushwick projects are located isn't a matter of opinion... It is what it is... Bushwick projects are in Bushwick... Granted, it is the borderline but it is part of the neighborhood...
... It is what it is... Bushwick projects are in Bushwick... Granted, it is the borderline but it is part of the neighborhood...
The city disagrees with you. It's very much part of Williamsburg. Unless somehow Seigel or Moore St. is the border of Bushwick, Bushwick ends right at the "southern" side of Flushing Av. Those projects sit to the "northern" side of Flushing.
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Originally Posted by SeventhFloor
U think so? I think it more comes from the projects on Manhattan Avenue, Seigel Street, Moore Street, more in that area...
It'd be more by Seigel to Flushing, Humboldt to Bushwick. The Borinquen Plaza buildings by Manhattan Av. aren't as active as the other buildings by Humboldt St./Bushwick Av. and the streets surrounding Bushwick Houses.
You know in your previous comments when you were discussing East Williamsburg I was actually doubting myself... I was thinking maybe I was getting confused with Southside and that grigou has a shred of objectivity and sincerity and that I was letting the neighborhoods past affect my opinion of it... Now after hearing this comment I know for a fact you are simply another one of those people looking to convince everyone that the hood is safe and they have nothing to worry about and wouldn't give a care in the world if something were to happen to them for false advertising...
Bushwick Houses are right on the Borderline of East Williamsburg and Bed-stuy but they are most certainly in Bushwick and while they aren't as bad as they used to be... the fact is they are still bad and there are a number of gang members that live in that project building... But I am sure that you will tell me just like you did with Bushwick and Grand St. by the L that there is no gang presence and the area is completely safe... You're credibility just went out the window with that one... Again... thank you for proving me point
How someone can get so defensive about the alleged danger of a neighborhood is completely beyond me.
I am sure that living in the Bushwick projects is no joke, that the Bushwick projects are not a safe place to be at 2AM, that there is some sort of gang activity in the direct vicinity of the Bushwick Houses and that they have "their share of problems" while not being "as bad as they used to be".
All I said was, I bike past them quite often, even at night, and it wasn't immediately apparent that they are a no-go zone. Convincing anyone that they are safe or that any neighborhood in this city is safe is not at all on my agenda. Again, reality check: I have biked past there quite often. Didn't feel as nervous as when I was passing other projects in Bed-Stuy or Fort Green. I'm sure they are very dangerous. It just didn't appear to me that way from the outside.
Sorry if I offended your sense of imminent danger. I rest my case.
You can bike past any projects in this city. I don't understand this point you keep making. If you're hanging out waiting for a bus or walking along whatever street said projects open up onto, you'd better up your guard a good amount.
I'm not making a point. I simply said that I biked past (and, gasp!, even walked by them a couple of times) the Bushwick houses and that I didn't observe a lot of dangerous activity. Why is this not objective, or a sign of some ominous "agenda" I have to "undersell" a neighborhood's "level of danger"?
No thats really only typical in NYC... most of the project buildings that I've seen in other cities in Mass, CT, California, Florida, they're just like that and beyond ghetto looking... At least these don't look that bad but they are as shady as it gets for the neighborhood... And where the Bushwick projects are located isn't a matter of opinion... It is what it is... Bushwick projects are in Bushwick... Granted, it is the borderline but it is part of the neighborhood...
The name of the projects isn't necessarily the name of the neighborhood they are in. For instance, here in SI, we have the Todt Hill Houses, which are actually in Castleton Corners.
Todt Hill proper is full of wealthy people living in large houses, but Castleton Corners is a middle class (maybe a shade above) neighborhood, so it makes a difference.
And generally projects in other cities are rowhouses or small buildings, but Bushwick is in NYC. Since land is so expensive in NYC, you'd think that those 3-story projects would be taller.
I'm not making a point. I simply said that I biked past (and, gasp!, even walked by them a couple of times) the Bushwick houses and that I didn't observe a lot of dangerous activity. Why is this not objective, or a sign of some ominous "agenda" I have to "undersell" a neighborhood's "level of danger"?
You are making a point. That is the whole reason you're posting here, as are we all.
Look, are you gonna sit here and try to tell us that you would be comfortable cutting through the Bushwick houses at night or even hanging out on the outskirts for a while? Would you recommend that out of towners who are visiting for a few days that its fine to walk by them screaming all drunk and playing with their phones, as do many people in many places? Or would you tell them to take extra guard around that area, more so than they need to in other areas? If not, than you are either not a sincere friend or really do have the wool pulled over your eyes.
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