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Old 12-29-2010, 06:27 PM
 
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It's clear to me what you're asking but just for the sake of clarity ...

1. how do you define an afro-latino? it it someone who was born in the spanish-speaking caribbean, south america or central america? (that would exclude haiti and brazil).

2. now, if people of high african admixtrue were brought from the english-speaking caribbean to cuba, puerto rico, dominican republic, honduras, panama, etc., then it is likely that some of the darker-skinned people in these countries are the result of that migration. However, latin american history tells you that african slaves were brought to many of these spanish-speaking islands as well as to north america and the english-speaking caribbean.

it seems to me that the admixture is derived from a variety of sources.
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:44 AM
 
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It's clear to me what you're asking but just for the sake of clarity ...

1. how do you define an afro-latino? it it someone who was born in the spanish-speaking caribbean, south america or central america? (that would exclude haiti and brazil).

2. now, if people of high african admixtrue were brought from the english-speaking caribbean to cuba, puerto rico, dominican republic, honduras, panama, etc., then it is likely that some of the darker-skinned people in these countries are the result of that migration. However, latin american history tells you that african slaves were brought to many of these spanish-speaking islands as well as to north america and the english-speaking caribbean.

it seems to me that the admixture is derived from a variety of sources.
Think of the 1 drop rule
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:55 AM
 
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in reality latino and Hispanic are 2 different terms.
Latin is any group of the Romance languages spoken.

Catalan, French, Italian, Portuguese, Occitan, Rhaeto-Romanic, Romanian, and Spanish.

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The global spread of colonial Romance languages has given rise to numerous creole languages and pidgins
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:19 AM
 
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If Haitians are Latin Americans due to being in the Americas and speaking a romance language, are Quebecois also Latin Americans?

Wait till I tell my DD that when she goes to school in Troy, NY she will be only a few hours from Latin America. She will be even more fascinated than knowing its close to Montreal, eh?

In fact in American English, "Latin American" mean Ibero-American. IE hispanic or brazilian.

Latino means hispanic. I don't think I have ever heard a Brazilian called a "latino" though I guess I don't often encounter contexts where that would come up.
Really?
Nobody responded to this?
Best post in the whole thread.

I don't know of any Haitian that considers him/herself Latin-American, regardless of the origin of their language.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:26 AM
 
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Really?
Nobody responded to this?
Best post in the whole thread.

I don't know of any Haitian that considers him/herself Latin-American, regardless of the origin of their language.
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If Haitians are Latin Americans due to being in the Americas and speaking a romance language, are Quebecois also Latin Americans?

Wait till I tell my DD that when she goes to school in Troy, NY she will be only a few hours from Latin America. She will be even more fascinated than knowing its close to Montreal, eh?

In fact in American English, "Latin American" mean Ibero-American. IE hispanic or brazilian.

Latino means hispanic. I don't think I have ever heard a Brazilian called a "latino" though I guess I don't often encounter contexts where that would come up.
I thought "Latino" meant derived of a country where Spanish is the primary language. So that would exclude Haiti (French) and Brazil (Portuguese).
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:31 AM
 
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Latin is any group of the Romance languages spoken.

Catalan, French, Italian, Portuguese, Occitan, Rhaeto-Romanic, Romanian, and Spanish.
"Latin" and "Latino" are not the same thing. I believe that you have defined Latin properly above.

I have always defined Latino as people derived from Latin American countries (a/k/a, where Spanish is the primary language).
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:05 PM
 
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Haitians are Latin American, aswell as Brazilian.

Hispanic Americans are the spanish speaking countries. They are different.

Any official world document includes Haiti in Latin America.

Heck, if anything, it borders and is entirely sorrounded by Latin America. Is as much Latin America as anything.
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:16 PM
 
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Haitians are Latin American, aswell as Brazilian.

Hispanic Americans are the spanish speaking countries. They are different.

Any official world document includes Haiti in Latin America.

Heck, if anything, it borders and is entirely sorrounded by Latin America. Is as much Latin America as anything.
I disagree. Any Haitians on the forum consider themselves Latin American? How come nobody calls Quebec part of Latin America, like brooklynborndad mentioned previously? Is Louisiana considered part of Latin America too, since Creole has strong ties to that region as well?
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:32 PM
 
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I disagree. Any Haitians on the forum consider themselves Latin American? How come nobody calls Quebec part of Latin America, like brooklynborndad mentioned previously? Is Louisiana considered part of Latin America too, since Creole has strong ties to that region as well?
Well Spain isn't Latin American either, and they speak spanish.

Haiti's location and the language it speaks includes it in Latin America. If it's not LA, then what is Haiti?

It's akin to Cuba, DR, and PR being part of the west indies, although they don't consider themselves such.
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:34 PM
 
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ok,ok, so, I would be right in saying that based on their language alone (creole) that their ethnic group is Latin American? So culture has no play in this? Or am I wrong, and their is another factor?
Culture doesn't have much to do with it because all the Latin American countriess are different in culture.
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