Mexicans in NYC (New York, Nassau, Cuba: employment, wages, tax)

[twist07]

Originally Posted by PortRichmonder

Should be interesting to say the least. I only remember reading one thing in the papers since all the graffiti popped up that was specifically cited as Mexican gang activity (not that that means anything at all). That was like 5 dudes beating someone up with pipes, sticks and bats or something random like that. I think the paper even identified the victim as "developmentally disabled" or something. I guess they're warming up with the easiest of targets, lol. Smh.

Sidenote: I saw in the same paper that the same dude who got beat up got stopped, frisked and arrested for carrying a knife in the same neighborhood like a week after the attack, lol. Wonder if he was paranoid?

Either way, I never used to see undercover cops stopping and searching young Mexican men before all this graffiti surfaced. Now I actually see it here and there and I have noticed more groups of Mexican youths congregating in/in front of stores and bars/clubs. Smh. Again, we shall see...

lol@ warming up with the easiest targets...not that I think beating up handicapped people is funny or anything. But it seems like the cops in Shaolin (you like that), are trying to be more preemptive and they were anticipating a Mexican backlash from last year. Sucks that dude got thrown in jail for having a knife, he was obviously shook.

[PortRichmonder]

Lol. Yeah, it's foul. I've been hearing stories here and there of Mexican gangs causing all kinds of random mischief for years now but I can only imagine maybe it's just at the expense of other Mexicans 99.9% of the time? Because honestly, I've never met anybody of any other race who takes them serious as any kind of a threat (which was cemented by all them black kids repeatedly beating them up, which has been going on for as long as I can remember).

I've been expecting some kind of huge Mexican gang movement to take off eventually just because they're so alienated from everyone else, frequently targeted and quite honestly, as poor, if not poorer, than most of the blacks and Puerto Ricans running around the North side of the Island.

Ironic story: In August of 2005 I was standing in a park with a few people (all black) and a Mexican wearing a shirt entirely soaked with blood wandered in. This prompted one of the people I was with to comment on how he had seen that Mexican beat up and robbed the night before. The oldest person we were with said something to the extent of "It's foul how they be doing these Mexicans out here. Watch, in 5 years, this park is gonna be all Mexicans. Blacks ain't even gonna be able to walk through here!"

Fast forward almost exactly 5 years later, and you have all them black-on-Mexican "bias" crimes, lol. His calculations were slightly off. Probably the same dude who said the world was gonna end this past Saturday, lol. Smh.

[twist07]

I don't know anywhere else in the city like that. I live in Bed Stuy, Mexicans come through often and work here, no one messes with them. All over the black neighborhods in Brooklyn they are left alone unless there's some backstory to the beef.

[PortRichmonder]

Originally Posted by twist07

I don't know anywhere else in the city like that. I live in Bed Stuy, Mexicans come through often and work here, no one messes with them. All over the black neighborhods in Brooklyn they are left alone unless there's some backstory to the beef.

Ehh, idk. I had always assumed it was the norm all over the city because I had heard similar things happen in other cities.

The difference between here and Bed-Stuy could be that the Mexicans have put down a tremendous amount of roots in the community. They've opened literally 20X more stores than the blacks ever had and while the blacks aren't moving out of the neighborhood (every Census sees the black population rising), the Hispanics (mostly Mexicans) are just moving in at a much much higher rate (like 80% compared to the blacks' 5-10%). I think the frustration with the changing of the community, the fact that it's growing denser, the omnipresence of vulnerable Mexicans and typical poverty-influenced thug attitudes just all boil over and manifest itself in Mexicans being targeted frequently. Sometimes for robberies and sometimes for sport. I don't know if they HATE Mexicans, but I'm sure if they could snap their fingers and make them disappear, they would. Except the ones who need them around as a source of income, lol. Smh.

Overall, people just don't like other people moving into their neighborhoods. Parkhill on Staten Island (yes, Wu-Tang's Parkhill, lol) has the highest Liberian population outside of Liberia and the African-Americans and Liberians go to war routinely out there. Why? Just cause...

[Brooklyn's Finest]

Mexicans and other central Americans make the restaurant/hospitality/construction industry run. They are fine by me. I don't discriminate.

Don't hate. Congratulate.

[Pookie Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Tony Of New York

"They pop out of nowhere overnight and cause all sorts of problems."
"Blacks and Hispanics not only have zero skills, they are too busy standing around doing nothing." "...standing outside all night smoking/fighting/dealing..." These generalizations are good examples of the kind of mindset that sees nothing but ill coming from entire groups. These heavily opinionated statements read like lines out of a racist induction manual, not objective considerations of facts/ ("they" i.e. all of them, regardless)

Blacks and Hispanics, as members of the city’s population are no different to any other races and cultures which make up the entire population. Every group includes those who are not exactly desirable as residents and neighbors. It's always a bad idea to take a bad example and spread it across an entire group. That's called bigotry.
The term “Hispanic” by the way, refers to Spanish, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central and South American cultures. I seriously doubt all or even a significant number of “Hispanics” have ‘zero skills.’

I'd like to thank you for repudiating that idiotic statement. Unfortunately he makes equally boneheaded remarks all the time and believes he is right.

[BrownPride]

I don't know if it's just me or maybe it is who knows but i have not been to Spanish Harlem in like almost 10 years.

I remember there used to be so many Mexicans residing there. A lot of mexican businesses too like restaurants and such. I went today and it seems like the Mexican population has shrunk. I saw less Mexicans walking outside and less Mexican businesses.

Are they moving elsewhere?

[LIGuy2011]

Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey

Throughout the US history, Mexicans were widespread in the Sunbelt region. You would be very lucky to find one anywhere in the North East of the US. Now years later, the Mexican population in NYC is growing.


Does anyone have information on how the Mexican population grew in NYC? What got them to NYC in the first place?

A Ford Pinto?

[BrownPride]

Originally Posted by PortRichmonder

Funny, following all that black-on-Mexican drama in Port Richmond, SI last Summer, just about every other wall in the neighborhood has a different Mexican gang spray painted on it now (mostly what appear to be home grown "gangs" but some national household names as well, though that doesn't of course mean that that actual gang has a presence in the area) and that wasn't the case a year ago. And a funny thing happen the last time a cop stopped me (last weekend I believe) that had never happened before, instead of asking if I knew anything about any recent drug activity or black-on-black murder, he mentioned how many problems they were having with Mexican gangs in the area as of late. Things that make you go hmmm...

Actually Mexican gangs in NYC have existed ever since I can remember.

I am going to be 27 this year by the way. I remember when I was like 10 my uncle and his group of friends had formed a gang called "Los Traviesos" that is still active today to fight other Mexican gangs which I believe there are over 50 Mexican Gangs in the 5 boroughs. But each gang has small numbers. Plus they are not even unified and at the time they were all made by illegal Mexicans so they pretty much did less damage or noise. Everyone knows that illegal Mexicans are scared to get deported so they keep it at a minimum. It also played in their favor because they kept it underground so nobody paid any mind when a Mexican would harm or kill another Mexican.

Now the new generation who are growing into this are getting into these same gangs because their uncles, cousins, etc were in them prior to them and they are the ones that are starting to make noise. Because they are adapting to the NYC culture which they grew in... I really believe that in a few years these 50 gangs will unify as one and then that's where the problem will start.. The 1st and 2nd generation will be the ones to stand up and turn everything around just like they did in LA back with the whites when the whites were oppressing them.

And also another thing I want to add, I've noticed that a lot of Mexican gang members from California are moving here. They are moving in Mexican neighborhoods such as Queens or Brooklyn where most of the Mexican gangs are located.. They are pretty much teaching these 1st and 2nd generation Mexicans the way of the Mexican gangs in LA..





In these videos you can clearly see the LA gang culture being influenced on the NYC Mexicans...

Gangs in NYC - New York Crime | Examiner.com

Here's a list of ALL the NYC gangs..^^^

As you can see, there are a lot of Mexican gangs as it is, if they all unite which may happen, all it takes is one person to want to unite them, enforce the heavy recruitment rule, and this thing could explode.

Personally I prefer for this gang bull**** to just go away. It only causes more problems and headaches and the bigger they get in numbers the bigger the problems become.. Hopefully this doesn't turn out like LA 5 0r 10 years from now.

[Tony Of New York]

Originally Posted by Pookie Jenkins

I'd like to thank you for repudiating that idiotic statement.

Thank you. I think it's important.