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Old 01-27-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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I remember reading quite a bit about Times Square and 42nd Street and saw some pictures of them from the 1970s and 1980s and I was absolutely shocked by how disgusting it looked. I remember my Dad taking the subway through NYC to Yankee Stadium back in the early 80s and seeing the Times Square station absolutely trashed. He said that back then you could get mugged in broad daylight if you weren't careful.

I was born in 1991, so obviously I have no memory of the pre-clean up Times Square. I'd just like to how bad it was from anyone here who actually did live through it.

Edit: Sorry about the duplicate thread. I realized I spelled something in the title wrong and couldn't reedit it.
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Old 01-27-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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I remember reading quite a bit about Times Square and 42nd Street and saw some pictures of them from the 1970s and 1980s and I was absolutely shocked by how disgusting it looked.
I thought it was atrocious and thought only a Herculean effort would change it. Here look:
http://www.nyc-architecture.com/MID/...mesSquare2.htm The b&w photos were before my time but the late 70's ones ring a mental bell, even though I was little.
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Old 01-27-2011, 02:53 PM
 
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Default I always avoided the block

coming from the Port Authority and heading east. I stuck to 40th street because even 41 st street had too many characters hanging around

I think in the late 70's the area was at it's absolute worst. I remember back in the summer of 1978 a vagrant inside the Port Authority terminal grabbed a cop's gun and started shooting at anyone and anything in sight. The other cops managed to shoot him down. The following year, a gang rampaged through the penny arcade area in the 42 street subway station and started beating, jumping and robbing innocent passersby.

I don't think the 80's were as bad on 42 street as they were in the 70's. Still bad, but not like in 1978
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:12 PM
 
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The first time I moved to NYC was in 1976. Since I was "in the theatre," I visited the Times Square area a lot for photography sessions and to pick up headshots.

It was AWFUL.

I was offered drugs numerous times, in broad daylight, on busy sidewalks. The area was filled with "XXX" movie theaters, peep shows and strip clubs. (Personal anecdote: I was once offered a job as a buckster outside a strip club. I declined. Politely. )

And 42nd Street after dark? Scary.
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:24 PM
 
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Just like here in DC you would get either robbed, shot, stabbed or get the living crap beaten out of you if you mouthed off to the wrong person.

Sometimes that would even happen for no reason at all.
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:42 PM
 
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(Personal anecdote: I was once offered a job as a buckster outside a strip club. I declined. Politely. )

And 42nd Street after dark? Scary.
I'm afraid to ask what a "buckster" is
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:55 PM
 
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I remember reading quite a bit about Times Square and 42nd Street and saw some pictures of them from the 1970s and 1980s and I was absolutely shocked by how disgusting it looked. I remember my Dad taking the subway through NYC to Yankee Stadium back in the early 80s and seeing the Times Square station absolutely trashed. He said that back then you could get mugged in broad daylight if you weren't careful.

I was born in 1991, so obviously I have no memory of the pre-clean up Times Square. I'd just like to how bad it was from anyone here who actually did live through it.

Edit: Sorry about the duplicate thread. I realized I spelled something in the title wrong and couldn't reedit it.


If you want to see how the Bronx was in the 1970s watch this.
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Old 01-27-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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I'm afraid to ask what a "buckster" is

The job was to stand on the sidewalk outside the strip club, interacting with passers-by and doing whatever it took to get them INTO the club.
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Old 01-27-2011, 04:20 PM
 
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...with the glasses would be a buckster for the massage parlor he is standing in front of

this is not even 42 street, this is 8th Avenue between 47th and 48th street, which was farther north into the theater area, also a huge market for prostitution and drug trade at the time (this had to be in 1971 or after because the Hollywood theater in the picture opened in 1971)

today the theater is the NY Tourbus station., there is also a Duane Reade and little bars and other little touristy places

times have changed
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Old 01-27-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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yeah i heard the starbucks on 8th & 47th was a gigolo (gay) bar, as in, old dudes looking for young dudes
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