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07-19-2007, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by briarwood
What's wrong with NJ?
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Sorry to say.....A LOT!!!!!!
I'm noticing a low of low income going to the suburbs; or, as Professor John Mollenkopf of CUNY calls it, "The Exurbs". Either high property taxes (Jersey, LI) or loooong commutes (Pennsylvania). And some of the marketing schemes are off the chain!!!!!!
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07-19-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SilkCity0416
What's wrong with NJ? If you make under 30,000 bucks a year... Where are you gonna live? Newark? Camden? Paterson?
LI? So we put someone who can't find a job to live on the South Shore. Hell, the Hamptons is nice this time of year.
Yeah, every poor person is a junkie and a criminal. Too bad the Gottis didn't get that one.. 
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How is Newark today any different from Bed-Stuy crica 1991? Too good for Newark all of the sudden? Also, there's Jersey City which isn't that bad and Elizabeth. Also, you could build affrodable housing out there.
As for LI, the Babylon train runs just like a subway. More than great access to the city. And how does a job affect reisdency, employment has gone up since the 1990s if I'm not mistaken.
As for every poor person being a junkie and a criminal, it may not be "everyone", but it sure is a whole lot.....I mean, you figure there's 100 thousand felony crimes commited in NYC every year. That's one for every 16 people below the poverty line in NYC. And that's today. In 1990, 500 thousand felony crimes were commited. One for every three.
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07-19-2007, 08:42 PM
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[quote=briarwood;1103199]Many People in the Non-europeanized world generally have a very good view of the United States. Asian kids can't get enough of our culture. I was riding the bus along Northern Blvd not too long ago and a couple of Asian kids came on totally decked in Bling and yankess gear and talking ebonics mess. I call them Chiggers  .
Oh, gawd...
Last edited by rqnll; 07-19-2007 at 08:47 PM..
Reason: Had second thoughts...
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07-20-2007, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SilkCity0416
^^^ no one is saying "Don't built in poor nabs. EVER!!!" All I'm saying is that if you want to rebuild, do it in a way that will keep the original residents (or residents who lived through so much) in. How many times have we seen stories on the news that rent is going up and people can't afford to live in the area anymore. Or that developers are buying apartments and jacking up the price by 10%. Remember the debate over Starrett City early this year? Or Peter Cooper Village-Stuyvesant Town?
Push the poor out and where do they go? Bergen County, NJ? Long Island? Lower Hudson Valley? Please!
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Neighborhoods change. Sometimes people get pushed due to high rents, sometimes they’re uncomfortable with who’s moving in and decide to leave. In my opinion, that’s life and no one group of people has the unalienable right to any area. My husband has talked about when he was a kid in East Harlem, they were practically giving away brownstones. His dad thought about getting one but decided it was too much work. His parents complain now about the high prices and how there is no way they could buy anything now, but they didn’t care about it until it was no longer a possibility. They didn’t envision themselves staying there permanently anyway. I do think that some long-time residents in “gentrifying” neighborhoods didn’t put in the mental, physical, emotional, and financial investment to complain about getting pushed out. Maybe others did, and that’s a real shame for them, but for the most part in the “hood’, moving up has meant moving out.
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07-21-2007, 09:47 AM
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There's a good chance I'll end up getting a teaching job in the hood. This doesn't bother me that much; though of course I would rather teach in a nice area. I went to an interview in the south Bronx and parked there. It was really busy on Westchester Ave, so I had no problem walking around. I saw about 3 white people the entire time I was walking around there. I got lost walking around on the side streets looking for the school where it was less busy, but no one bothered me and gave me a strange look. By the way, I'm a skinny, blonde haired blue eyed 23 year old female. I just walked like I knew where I was going (though I had to secretly hide my map when I was looking at it when I was lost) and just walked confidently. It just makes you seem less vulnerable. I even had to walk alongside the projects where I passed by a bunch of local teenagers were hanging out. It's not somewhere I would go out of my way to, but I will be job searching in that area because those are the areas that most of the jobs are available in for teaching (teachers don't leave their jobs in nice areas, obviously).
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07-21-2007, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by briarwood
How is Newark today any different from Bed-Stuy crica 1991? Too good for Newark all of the sudden? Also, there's Jersey City which isn't that bad and Elizabeth. Also, you could build affrodable housing out there.
As for LI, the Babylon train runs just like a subway. More than great access to the city. And how does a job affect reisdency, employment has gone up since the 1990s if I'm not mistaken.
As for every poor person being a junkie and a criminal, it may not be "everyone", but it sure is a whole lot.....I mean, you figure there's 100 thousand felony crimes committed in NYC every year. That's one for every 16 people below the poverty line in NYC. And that's today. In 1990, 500 thousand felony crimes were committed. One for every three.
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Yeah, but alot of those crimes are committed by certain individuals multiple times, and not only poor people steal, etc... I live in the suburbs and there is alot of kids here who rob people... FOR FUN! That makes no sense to me.
Alot of poor people are kids. Raised being poor. They were born poor and considering Americas lack of immobility, they will probably die poor. Its true, these people commit alot of crimes. Poor Male Adolescents.
But a hungry man is a dangerous man, and most of these kids face issues that people in there little bubbles will never understand.
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07-21-2007, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by briarwood
How is Newark today any different from Bed-Stuy crica 1991? Too good for Newark all of the sudden? Also, there's Jersey City which isn't that bad and Elizabeth. Also, you could build affrodable housing out there.
As for LI, the Babylon train runs just like a subway. More than great access to the city. And how does a job affect reisdency, employment has gone up since the 1990s if I'm not mistaken.
As for every poor person being a junkie and a criminal, it may not be "everyone", but it sure is a whole lot.....I mean, you figure there's 100 thousand felony crimes commited in NYC every year. That's one for every 16 people below the poverty line in NYC. And that's today. In 1990, 500 thousand felony crimes were commited. One for every three.
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Have you ever been to Newark before? No way Newark is like Bed-stuy 1991. The very worst areas in Newark are like Brownsville today.
As for your 100,000 felony crimes, belive it or not that is a huge underestimate. Most crime is not reported to police. In a major poor Black/Latino city like here, my guess is a good 20%. reported. Not mention all the stuff that gets ****canned.
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07-21-2007, 07:04 PM
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The hood is refreshing sign that New York isn't COMPLETELY over-run with hipsters.
Today I was on the N train, and adjacent from me was a group of young hipster homosexuals, who were talking about getting 80 dollar shirts for 60 dollars, and getting on a flight to meet their friends in Vegas, then going to LA for photoshoots, or something along those lines.
I had this unbelievable urge to grab one of them and break their face, so I stepped off the train and took the next one.
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07-21-2007, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Hustla718
Have you ever been to Newark before? No way Newark is like Bed-stuy 1991. The very worst areas in Newark are like Brownsville today.
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I don't think that you know much about newark, brownsville is a walk in the park compared to most of newark.
A buddy of mine makes big $$ running a security service that makes burglar alarm runs because newark PD just doesn't have the man power to respond to calls with such low priority, unless you are oozing blood you probably wouldn't see any response from them
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07-21-2007, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by EugeneBKLYN
The hood is refreshing sign that New York isn't COMPLETELY over-run with hipsters.
Today I was on the N train, and adjacent from me was a group of young hipster homosexuals, who were talking about getting 80 dollar shirts for 60 dollars, and getting on a flight to meet their friends in Vegas, then going to LA for photoshoots, or something along those lines.
I had this unbelievable urge to grab one of them and break their face, so I stepped off the train and took the next one.
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Your BSing on that last statement. If you really got off the train because of a few yuppies, then you have issues. Or do you mean that you waited for the stop to get on the next car?
Hope it's the latter...
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