If not Manhattan, it's not worth it... (New York, Riverhead: living in, rated)

[NooYowkur81]

Originally Posted by clubBR

Do you agree that if you don't live in Manhattan, or very close proximity to it, then it's not worth living in New York City?

I was born and raised in Queens. I've worked in the Bronx. My family is scattered throughout NYC/ NJ.

And I've come to the conclusion that unless you live on the island of Manhattan or have very very easy access to it, NYC is not worth the hype!

Not true at all. In fact, in 2007 you can argue the Outer Boroughs are the last remnants of true NYC.

Granted, if it's friday night and I'm looking for a nice place to eat or a nice place to hang and get some drinks, 9 times out of 10 it will be in Manhattan. But hanging out and living there are two totally diffferent things.

[straightshooter]

Originally Posted by sickofnyc

I was born and raised in Brooklyn, NY. Over the years I've seen the city become progressively
more crowded and filthy. The neighborhoods that once had their own brand of charm have morphed into
yuppie infested, overpriced areas or tourist shopping traps. I never wanted to live in Manhattan, but now
I find it totally intolerable. Commuting from Brooklyn to the city, unless you live downtown Brooklyn, is and
always had been a hellish nightmare. The subways, although now mostly air conditioned, are way too crowded
and dirty. The train stations are unbearably hot in the summer and they stink. You have to pray that
the train will not break down or some idiot didn't decide to fall onto the tracks and cause horrible delays.
Maybe a homeless person will be asleep across 3 seats during rush hour and if they do get up, who would sit
there now anyway? Brooklyn has also become uninhabitable. The Science Journal's geological department
has named Brooklyn "The Most Paved City In The Nation" The entire Borough is cement. Where once there
might have been trees, they are gone now. If due to disease, insect infestation or over-construction, I don't know,
but most of them are never replaced. People here use them as garbage receptacles anyway. There are always
cigarette butts, paper cups, burger wrappers and various debris surrounding the tree beds. The morons here do
not have any respect for nature or the ecology at all! There is always new and ugly houses being built to replace
once charming dwellings. There is never any space utilized for green space and because of obviously ridiculous
zoning laws, builders are not required to plant anything. You will never see a solar panel here or a building going up
made from recycled materials. There are some neighborhoods in Brooklyn that are a bit more livable, but they
are totally unaffordable because of their proximity to smelly Manhattan. This area has been overrun by Russian
immigrants. If you are not against unrestrained immigration, you will be after living here. Not only are the majority
of these people stupidly ignorant to the environment, they do not assimilate but are rude and arrogant to boot. I feel as if I have been transported to Moscow while I was asleep. This is also a disgustingly noisy place.
I am taking a trip to Portland Oregon in September and I have a feeling that when I return here it will be to pack
up and leave for good!!!!

you all know me...i love BK, and i love my neighborhood. however, i find it difficult to argue against this post. most of what is written is spot on....actually makes me a little ashamed of what has happened here. *reputation*

[NickL28]

The outer boros aren't much cheaper. A studio apartment in Queens east of the Van Wyck will start at $1,100 & closer to $1,500 in the uber trendy parts of Queens like Jackson Heights & Astoria.

Also, NYC has changed. The class distinctions are very wide and you will only love it if you are under 30 and making over $200,000 a year.

[NickL28]

Yes, sickofny is right especially with these pretentious 'too cool for cool' gen Y yuppies who have overrun most of the outer boros with thier extreme sense of entitlement & narcissistic greed. The class distinctions are great especially when every article in the NY Times & NY Magazine is aimed toward this new breed of extreme wealth that has taken over NYC.

[Dedalus]

I've never lived in this place, but it's my home...

Right near where the #1 IRT ends, at 242 St. I don't call what I like "diversity" (what a load of horsepuckey) but I do like seeing all the different types of people.

[BXGEAR]

Originally Posted by Dedalus

I've never lived in this place, but it's my home...

Right near where the #1 IRT ends, at 242 St. I don't call what I like "diversity" (what a load of horsepuckey) but I do like seeing all the different types of people.

Riverdale? the second best place to live in NYC?
Take a walk "down the hill"

[BXGEAR]

Originally Posted by NickL28

Yes, sickofny is right especially with these pretentious 'too cool for cool' gen Y yuppies who have overrun most of the outer boros with thier extreme sense of entitlement & narcissistic greed. The class distinctions are great especially when every article in the NY Times & NY Magazine is aimed toward this new breed of extreme wealth that has taken over NYC.

I think us NYers are fed up with yuppies. But it will never end. So i suggest we all move to Hawaii

[mead]

The 1 train doesn't go into Riverdale. It terminates up in Kingsbridge, which is mostly a Dominican neighoborhood. If you go father north up on Broadway you will hit northern Riverdale where a good number of Irish people live. Alternatively you can go up the hill from the 242nd st station and you will be in Riverdale proper.

Originally Posted by clubBR

Riverdale? the second best place to live in NYC?
Take a walk "down the hill"

[BXGEAR]

Originally Posted by mead

The 1 train doesn't go into Riverdale. It terminates up in Kingsbridge

The 242nd St. station is located within Riverdale boundaries. Kingsbridge ends at 240th St.

Originally Posted by mead

Alternatively you can go up the hill from the 242nd st station and you will be in Riverdale proper.

The sides of Riverdale are train oriented and the center is car culture

[Dedalus]

Originally Posted by clubBR

The 242nd St. station is located within Riverdale boundaries. Kingsbridge ends at 240th St.



The sides of Riverdale are train oriented and the center is car culture

I'd head south, where there's a bit more crime, and the rents are lower.