Roughest looking street corner in NYC courtesy of Google Street Views (Camden: homeless, oil)

[SobroGuy]

I will say they recently put up a large tower on Westchester ave (with ground floor retail and a garage) by 163rd st, and there is also the other tower by 174th street (you can see it as you pass by on the 2/5 train), but those are the 2 exceptions. The vast majority do not look anything like housing projects at all.

[whitlock]

No the majority of them don't look like projects, but they general idea is the same: As much low-income people housed in the same buildning as possible mixed with some middle-income restricted to 8 floors max this time around.

But the city needs more housing and that is exactly what it's doing.

[icon124]

If you think this is rough start looking at streets in baltimore city...anywhere over the west side...or try the blocks and blocks of houses boarded up on broadway and any street off of it

[whitlock]

What do yu mean? Broadway in Harlem or Bushwick or in some other city, be more specific.

[mrtracey]

Originally Posted by Colts

Just for fun:

Philadelphia
Camden
Detroit
Gary
East St. Louis
St. Louis
Cincinnati
Baltimore

Best point I've seen in this thread. Philadelphia is the epitomy of the rough streets that NY once had. I've been down streets in Philadelphia that had 50% of the homes abandoned with hookers on the corners. The projects in Philly make the projects on Third Avenue in the Bronx look like the apartments on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, lol. I once pulled in a run-down gas station in Philly across from Temple University that had a McDonalds in it. Nothing like saying "can I get 5 dollars on pump 3 with a small fry." Sad part is, the fries looked like they were cooked in the oil from the gas pump, not from cooking oil.

Camden, NJ - let's not even get started. It is like 2 Brooklyns and 3 Bronxs back in the 80's put together.

[It'sAutomatic]

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=washin...12,323.64,,0,0

Chicago

[anon1]

Originally Posted by mrtracey

Best point I've seen in this thread. Philadelphia is the epitomy of the rough streets that NY once had. I've been down streets in Philadelphia that had 50% of the homes abandoned with hookers on the corners. The projects in Philly make the projects on Third Avenue in the Bronx look like the apartments on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, lol. I once pulled in a run-down gas station in Philly across from Temple University that had a McDonalds in it. Nothing like saying "can I get 5 dollars on pump 3 with a small fry." Sad part is, the fries looked like they were cooked in the oil from the gas pump, not from cooking oil.

Camden, NJ - let's not even get started. It is like 2 Brooklyns and 3 Bronxs back in the 80's put together.

When will people realize that exaggeration is not the way... All it does is ruin your point... If Camden would be as bad in today's time as you say it would unquestionably rank #1 every year with the #2 being nowhere near it in terms of crime... I love how people try to compare everything to Brooklyn and the Bronx in the 80s... I guess it goes to show you how bad the area we lived in and survived really was...

[paddock_laker]

Yeah, New York doesn't have as much of the blight as some of the rust belt cities, such as Detroit and Cleveland. I remember some parts of Milwaukee near where I grew up were just plain awful. Chicago had some bad ones too.

[whitlock]

Originally Posted by It'sAutomatic

washington park chicago - Google Maps

Chicago

I assume this is from Southside. Some say that Westside is even worse.

[mayorofnyc]

Originally Posted by mrtracey

Best point I've seen in this thread. Philadelphia is the epitomy of the rough streets that NY once had. I've been down streets in Philadelphia that had 50% of the homes abandoned with hookers on the corners. The projects in Philly make the projects on Third Avenue in the Bronx look like the apartments on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, lol. I once pulled in a run-down gas station in Philly across from Temple University that had a McDonalds in it. Nothing like saying "can I get 5 dollars on pump 3 with a small fry." Sad part is, the fries looked like they were cooked in the oil from the gas pump, not from cooking oil.

Camden, NJ - let's not even get started. It is like 2 Brooklyns and 3 Bronxs back in the 80's put together.

Meh..New York doesn't really have blight compared to a lot of other cities across the country. Too much valuable real estate now. I agree about Philly and Camden having some Baghdad looking blocks. I don't think anything tops Baltimore though as far as urban decay, at least on the east coast. I'm talking literally entire blocks of boarded up rowhomes, never seen anything like it.