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Old 01-31-2017, 08:39 PM
 
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What are your experiences? What is the time frame, and where?
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Old 01-31-2017, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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it will in the next 20 years. nowhere near there yet
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Very little in the "Piano DOstrict" but has a long way to go elsewhere. Ppl believe because Starbucks and Chipotle are now located on 161st street, that area will be gentrified soon. I highly doubt it. It's just a great area for a business like that since the courthouse is across the street. But plenty of affordable housing is being developed throughout the Bronx. I agree w/ HellUpInHarlem though: 10-20 for gentrification to fully kick in.
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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What are your experiences? What is the time frame, and where?
First thing is first. The Bronx is a very different compared to parts of Brooklyn and Queens. First off, the Bronx is far from the Manhattan core which is close to Queens and Brooklyn which allows gentrification to take place in these areas. Also the Bronx has middle class areas that don't need any form of gentrification and lacks the aesthetics to attract suburban educated millennials who move to NYC in recent years. What parts of the Bronx is facing gentrification? Anywhere facing south of 167 street on the 2,4,5,6 lines between Major Deegan Expressway, going as East to Hunts Point Avenue, and down to the Bronx Kill River. Its only a small portion of the Bronx that is receiving gentrification and that's it. The Bronx is too far from the Manhattan Core, and suburban middle class parts of the Bronx don't need gentrification, that's what is hurting the Bronx from being like half of Brooklyn and 1/4 of Queens.

The Bronx wont have the same gentrification that we saw in Manhattan and Brooklyn during the past 15 years. In matter of fact, data has proven that gentrification fails to lift people out of poverty because Brooklyn is still one of the poorest urban areas in America, not as poor as the Bronx, but still poor on the national level. So gentrification needs to be reevaluated. Also what can hurt gentrification is interest rates. Interest has gone up since Trump became President, and this can hurt developers in a big way. That's why before the inauguration, buildings in Mott haven, Lots, plots of land and stuff were being purchased for future development. The 138 street core has 6 buildings being developed for market rate housing. And warehouses are being converted into market rate housing. Not for nothing, I know folks who live in NYCHA in the area, and are paying nearly full market rate to live there. Things look promising for the area. But again don't hold your breath. Mott Haven only has one good school and that is a private catholic school, and a couple of charter schools to tickle your little snow flakes mind. Also the area has plenty of health issues due to poor air quality, and poor diet, mental and health wellness.

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Old 02-01-2017, 09:51 AM
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Location: LES & Brooklyn
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In matter of fact, data has proven that gentrification fails to lift people out of poverty because Brooklyn is still one of the poorest urban areas in America, not as poor as the Bronx, but still poor on the national level.
That seems like an "alternative fact" to me.. And a contradiction.
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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Great post, Bronx, let's see what happens.
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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Define gentrifying.

Do you define gentrifying as "white liberal arts hipsters moving in"? No, the bronx isn't gentrifying.

Do you define gentrifying as "an increase in the quality of stores and public services"? The south bronx is gentrifying a bit and the rest of the bronx is either staying crappy (around the end of the 2 and 5 trains) or was okay in the first place (woodlawn, riverdale, etc)

The question is pointless until people can agree on what the word even means.
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Old 02-01-2017, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Why does it matter to you?
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Old 02-02-2017, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Somewhere that cost too much
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Why does it matter to you?
- Not OP, but it does matter to me because I grew up in the Bronx for a number of years. and I want

"an increase in the quality of stores and public services". I want to see that borough to prosper.

What's wrong with that?
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Old 02-02-2017, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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- Not OP, but it does matter to me because I grew up in the Bronx for a number of years. and I want

"an increase in the quality of stores and public services". I want to see that borough to prosper.

What's wrong with that?
So you no longer live there? How does it improve your life if you arent around based on what you consider improvement?
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