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Occasionally you will get a slice that has 2 inches of bare bread on the outside. I just grin and bear it unless it is frequent then the place is stricken from my list.
I have news for you, NY's reputation for the best pizza has been declining for many years, due to almost all pizzerias in Manhattan ranging from average to terrible (especially in Midtown).
And expensive! I ordered 2 slices of pizza yesterday near Union Square - it was $7. And average, at best.
These $1 pizza joints that are popping up will just accelerate the notion that NY's pizza is overrated.
In the outer boroughs and in NJ, it's hard to find a BAD pizza. In Manhattan (where tourists go, and form their opinions on NY pizza) the opposite is true.
So, for the people that live here ... we know that NY pizza is the best, we just know that pizza in Manhattan kind of sucks. Tourists don't know that. Well maybe some do.
Does anyone actually CARE whether the reputation of New York's pizza is downgraded?
I mean, really, if fewer people from Mahwah come in looking for world class pizza will the world spin off its axis. Are YOU given a check every months if NY pizza is top rated? I'm not.
I couldn't care less if New York pizza is considered wonderful or horrific, as long as I can get a slice of good cheap pizza when I want it.
Heck, there will always be purveyors to sell to the smart Union Square crowd their fill of $3.50/slice pizza. Who knows, maybe even $10 a slice under a crystal chandellier with waiters in tails. Did the old OAK ROOM at the PLAZA serve slices?
Kefir would you care if your family was once highly regarded for their work caring for the sick and elderly, and now using your family's name and reputation hundreds of copy cats/posers/fakes/frauds are providing really bad care to the sick and elderly to make a fast buck and now your family's name and reputation is forever associated with crap?
That's the problem. And yes we are all directly/indirectly "given checks" because of NYC reputation for its pizza, food, architecture, historic neighborhoods, theater, art scene, bars, entertainment, Times Sq, Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building, Yankee Stadium, Bronx Zoo, Botanical Gardens, Wall St..and on and on..because it makes people WANT to come here, do business here, live here =spend money here, provide jobs, and grow the economy.
To you it's just pizza...but you ain't a NYer anyway so you'll never understand what makes the world go round. We do...
Does anyone actually CARE whether the reputation of New York's pizza is downgraded?
I mean, really, if fewer people from Mahwah come in looking for world class pizza will the world spin off its axis. Are YOU given a check every months if NY pizza is top rated? I'm not.
I couldn't care less if New York pizza is considered wonderful or horrific, as long as I can get a slice of good cheap pizza when I want it.
Heck, there will always be purveyors to sell to the smart Union Square crowd their fill of $3.50/slice pizza. Who knows, maybe even $10 a slice under a crystal chandellier with waiters in tails. Did the old OAK ROOM at the PLAZA serve slices?
I understand your point. But a lot of us DO care about the reputation, at least a little bit. It bothers us, even slightly, if we were to hear a tourist from Minnesota say "well I came here looking for pizza paradise, but the slice I had at Famous Famiglia was really not much better than Papa John's at home!". It may bother us in varying degrees, but most of us would at least offer some advice on where to get a "real" slice. It's something NYers take pride in. And people from NJ. And CT. The whole tri-state area takes great, great pride in it. (The style is widely known as NY-style, as this is the NY metropolitan area, but the states of NJ and CT also have been heavily involved in the development of great American pizza).
But just to correct you, it's not people from Mahwah coming in looking for good pizza. People from Bergen County aren't tourists in the least. And North Jersey has a ton of excellent pizzerias...you're more likely to come across a good slice there than in Manhattan! True story (not the same as 20 years ago).
If it is so easy why can't anyone outside of the New York metro area or Italy make a great pizza? Why is the pizza so bad outside of these areas? If it is so easy and such a menial task for working class scum to make pizza shouldn't anyone be able to pull it off?
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Originally Posted by SkyBob
Yeah, the quantity of ingredients in a $1 pizza is SO complicated it takes a chef to get it right.
My mouth waters for a Papa Johns pizza, and not just in the New York metro area either. Dominos I can pass by but even Pizza Hut is okay when I'm really hungry. But we're not talking about "great" pizza here. The thread is about $1 pizza and the fear that it will cause the downfall of New York's reputation. I don't think it will.
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it is harder than you think
