Condos in Mott Haven.......

[bx718]

so i think i saw one of the "mott haven yuppies" today. Total hipster getting off at 138th/concourse.

You have to give it up to the hipsters though. THey will move ANYWHERE. pink flip flops walking a dog in bedstuy .............

[Guywithacause]

Lol....I find the idea of a "hipster" funny. Just because you are a single, not ghetto...and not from the neighborhood you are quickly labled as something sinister...like a gentrifyer....a hipster...whatever. We are all human..and for the last person who doesn't know....Mott Haven and areas surrounding it in the Bronx...are pretty much the last truly affordable places to live. And EVERYONE, not just broke people of color...seek affordable housing in this city.

So yes you may see this person as a hipster...but more than likely he is just a guy trying to live cheaply in the city..and chose Mott Haven. Why is this a problem or something to be analyzed? There is room enough in Mott Haven, and the Bronx overall for the "hipsters", the wealthy, the poor, the middle, the blue color, families, yuppies, singles, and everythign else.

The Bronx is a bout inclusion, not exclusion..which is why you are now seeing those in flip flops! Everyone is welcome!

[bx718]

Guy I didn't mean that in a bad context kinda way. It's just that when i've been down in bedstuy you see a few kids just minding their business and it's not exactly what I have been used to seeing down there. I am not saying i'm against it..... free nation right?

Somenoe made a point earlier (can't remember who) that, the "hipsters/yuppies" moving into bx areas like mott haven etc, cannot be good for the Neighborhoods. Because it raises rent, and pushes the locals out. so gentrification, as applied in this context, cannot be good for say.... MH.

I think another look at it will be why the poor stay poor and why the "locals" can't raise the neighborhoods by themselves.

anyway - please check your messages

[Guywithacause]

I know BX718...I am just bustin your ballz a bit. =) I understand that some people say that these new people moving in are bad for the neighborhood because they equate them moving in with hgiher rents, real estate values, and the unfounded fear of LLs forcing them out and being homeless.

These same people were the ones complaining about the immenses segregation that has occured, and the lack of resources in their communities. So if the new people and resources are not available..they complain..if the new people and resources come they complain...you will never win.

I welcome new people..as these communities have been isolated and extremely seregated for too long...which is why we have this intense and overwhelming sub-culture of ghetto behavior. The reintroduction of mainstream values and culturally accepted societal norms is critical to the members of these communities....and integrating these communities..instead of continuing to isolate them...is the only answer.