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Old 08-07-2011, 07:25 AM
 
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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Blacks NY'ers are leaving the city. Why? Government jobs are being cut and that was the best source of middle class incomes for Black NY'ers.
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Old 08-07-2011, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Newark, NJ/BK
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Am I the only one who thinks this article is a bit of an exaggeration?
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Old 08-07-2011, 09:18 AM
 
Location: New York City via Austin via Chicago
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I'm sure they're exaggerating. The White population probably is soaring percentage-wise since there was a low number of them living there already. Probably more Real Estate proproganda to draw more Whites to the area.
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Old 08-07-2011, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Pflugerville
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I may be naive to ask this, but I am moving to NYC soon, and so I have to ask....

Does it matter if I live in a predominantly black neighborhood? I am white. I just don't understand why it would matter if most of my neighbors were darker than me. I mean, other than barbershops, I don't see how it would affect the amenities of the neighborhood or it's proximity to work.

I guess I am trying to ask, why would real estate agents have to resort to propaganda to get whites to move to a predominantly black area. I mean, in Texas we can be pretty segregated in the smaller towns, but why does that matter in NYC. Aren't new yorkers beyond that? If a place is close to manhattan or has nice houses, why do people care about the demographics of the neighborhood?
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Old 08-07-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: New York City via Austin via Chicago
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I may be naive to ask this, but I am moving to NYC soon, and so I have to ask....

Does it matter if I live in a predominantly black neighborhood? I am white. I just don't understand why it would matter if most of my neighbors were darker than me. I mean, other than barbershops, I don't see how it would affect the amenities of the neighborhood or it's proximity to work.

I guess I am trying to ask, why would real estate agents have to resort to propaganda to get whites to move to a predominantly black area. I mean, in Texas we can be pretty segregated in the smaller towns, but why does that matter in NYC. Aren't new yorkers beyond that? If a place is close to manhattan or has nice houses, why do people care about the demographics of the neighborhood?
I don't think they're trying to draw Whites over there due to them being White. They most likely want to draw higher-income residents over there because there is no doubt the many of the higher-ups at the NY Times are friends/associates with major Real Estate Developers that have investment in Bed-Stuy. No matter what I or you think, people always associate improvement in a neighborhood when more Whites appear. Although Bed-Stuy has a huge number of young Black professionals. In NYC, money talks. Race unfortunately correlates to money in many people's minds. I have a few of "poor" White friends over there too and they don't have many problems there being White.

JayBrown, I graduated from Pville High School, did you go there? Small World.
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Old 08-07-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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I may be naive to ask this, but I am moving to NYC soon, and so I have to ask....

Does it matter if I live in a predominantly black neighborhood? I am white. I just don't understand why it would matter if most of my neighbors were darker than me. I mean, other than barbershops, I don't see how it would affect the amenities of the neighborhood or it's proximity to work.

I guess I am trying to ask, why would real estate agents have to resort to propaganda to get whites to move to a predominantly black area. I mean, in Texas we can be pretty segregated in the smaller towns, but why does that matter in NYC. Aren't new yorkers beyond that? If a place is close to manhattan or has nice houses, why do people care about the demographics of the neighborhood?
It doesn't matter. Don't listen to the hysterics on this message board.

Live where you want and where you like.

The census numbers about Bed Stuy are true, and they're not fabricated propaganda as some here would have you believe.

Agents aren't resorting to anything - they're taking people where they want to see, and people are asking about Bed Stuy.
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:23 AM
 
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So does Bedford-Stuyvesant looks and feels like how Park Slope was in the 80's and 90's? With Whites moving there and buying up properties? Seems like pretty soon it is going to become like Park Slope in about two decade or so.
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Old 08-07-2011, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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I just hate these NYT articles that forever associate an improving neighborhood with white people moving in and black people moving out. It's an insult to both races really. It's not the "whiteness" of the new residents that improves the area but the fact that the new residents (whatever race they are) care more about the neighborhood than the long term lifers ever did.

Although I believe there needs to be more affordable housing in the city, I don't mind one bit when a neighborhood gets gentrified. I just don't understand the need to preserve the "culture" of a neighborhood that includes bullets flying and social decay. It reminds me of those of us that are perversely nostalgic about the days when times square was a drug ridden hellhole and people were suffering everywhere you look. Really? you want heroin addicts on your doorstep to feel like you are in the real NYC? Good luck and goodbye to you.
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Old 08-07-2011, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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I still never see White People in Bedford Stuyvesant, I remember having to stop there to get gas and getting wierd looks from the locals a few years back.
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