Why does Bloomberg want to shut down all the Neighborhood High Schools? (New York: low income, apartment)

[Whatitdo?]

Originally Posted by jcoltrane

LMFAO!!!

I'm certain you must be a product of just such an education.

Look at the oxymoron in your comment. "...schools have educated...poor graduation rate...."

Do you see a problem with that?



If they have been educating how could the grad rate be so poor? Obviously, because they haven't been educating. Every school s/b made a charter school and compete for students.

Bloomberg must be pulling his hair out. Trying to fix a system which created nothing but dummies, while being opposed by the same damn dummies.

Can dummies be expected to think intelligently?

Bloomberg's dilemma.

The graduation rate is what the city deems to be poor, and some people seem to forget it takes longer than 4 years for some students to graduate. So the 4 year graduation rate could read 56% put it the 7 year graduation rate could be 80%. If these zoned schools have a high Special Ed. population, they can't be expected to do as better as schools that select their applicants.

[el77]

Bloomberg has an agenda and wants to chase native ny'ers out. He caters to the yuppies,transplants,and those with lots of cash.

[Mr. Klato]

Originally Posted by el77

Bloomberg has an agenda and wants to chase native ny'ers out. He caters to the yuppies,transplants,and those with lots of cash.

Bloomberg and all politicians cater to the Rich Elite. The people who are not wealthy are consumed by the excessive materialism and bread and circus of today. The rich elite use a tactic called divide and conquer to keep the middle and poor class suppressed and always fighting against each other.

[Bronxguyanese]

Originally Posted by Klato

Bloomberg and all politicians cater to the Rich Elite. The people who are not wealthy are consumed by the excessive materialism and bread and circus of today. The rich elite use a tactic called divide and conquer to keep the middle and poor class suppressed and always fighting against each other.

Well said klato.

[SUPERCHIC]

makes no sense to close any School Mind you the classes are over flowed with kids and the population is expanding.

You shut schools down, What you're basically doing is shutting kids out of a education. Means more kids are going to drop out and get involved with crime an drugs.

If anything nYC should buy the Catholic schools that closed down and adding schools instead of closing schools.

[Whatitdo?]

Originally Posted by jcoltrane

Look at the oxymoron in your comment. "...schools have educated...poor graduation rate...."

Do you see a problem with that?



If they have been educating how could the grad rate be so poor? Obviously, because they haven't been educating. Every school s/b made a charter school and compete for students.

Here's a scenario, a large High School had a 35% 4 year graduation rate in 1991, in 2010 it had a 57% graduation rate. Now this school is being threatened for closure. Why is the school being closed now instead of 1991?

I think the mayor has an agenda. Why do people "care" about the situation now?

[Fred314X]

Let's see if any of this serves as a lesson for the next Mayoral election. There were 1,000,000 votes cast in Bloomberg vs. Thompson. That means all the doomsday reporting about how nobody could overcome the Mayor's money was a lot of nonsense. What happened was that a shade over 25% of the eligible voters in the city actually showed up at the polls. Bloomberg could have been beaten easily; his money would have meant nothing if only people had voted.

So next time, instead of complaining about the job he's done, it will be interesting to see if New Yorkers actually do something about it. (Like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, we've had the ruby slippers all along. We just never made use of them!)

[SobroGuy]

So if the Mayor does nothing about schools, he "hates/doesn't care about the poor and only caters to rich people", if he takes action, holds teachers accountable, and schools cannot improve after a set amount of time and they close (only to be reopened in smaller specialized schools mind you), he is deemed "anti-poor, ruining this city" etc. You can't win!

Yes these schools should have been shuttered/dealt with 20 years ago, but that's because the leadership at the time didn't care/were in the Union's pocket, so why bring this up against Bloomberg???? He is taking action NOW, trying to impact change, and the simpletons, like the Tea Party, fight against their own self-interest.

If you believe leaving the schools open, and maintaining the status quo is working or the right solution, you haven't been paying attention for the last 30+ years. He is trying something NEW, since we know status quo doesn't work, and we keep losing generation after generation.

[Harlem resident]

Originally Posted by SobroGuy

So if the Mayor does nothing about schools, he "hates/doesn't care about the poor and only caters to rich people", if he takes action, holds teachers accountable, and schools cannot improve after a set amount of time and they close (only to be reopened in smaller specialized schools mind you), he is deemed "anti-poor, ruining this city" etc. You can't win!

... He is trying something NEW, since we know status quo doesn't work, and we keep losing generation after generation.

I agree, and I think one might understand "divide and conquer," as regards the "poor," as part of a general interest in breaking things up and redistributing populations. I think we will see much more of this. The same is going on with the project complexes, at least in Central Harlem. There is a movement to re-integrate them into city street grid. Of course, from the beginning, the residents have fought this tooth-and-nail. I do not know whether people realize that this is part of greater developments in public housing theory, mid-century vs. now.

I know some of he failing schools in this area and they are a DISASTER, filled with destructive and anti-social students.

I would like to see a strategy where "making parents absolutely accountable" (in my view, the real problem) is added to "making teachers accountable."

[SobroGuy]

Harlem what movement to reintergrate them into city street grid? What do you mean?