Why does Bloomberg want to shut down all the Neighborhood High Schools? (New York: public schools, closing)

[Whatitdo?]

Big New York High Schools Fall Hard but Are Not Going Quietly - NYTimes.com

These big schools educated New Yorkers for generations, and simply because of a "poor" graduation rate, they are being shut down as soon as possible! Some of these schools were around since the 20s, or even before.

It is becoming hard to find a Zoned High School that is not in danger of being shut down and replaced with charter schools.

[Gantz]

The only high schools that are being shut down are the ones with very poor graduation rates, i.e. they are actually being shut down on merit, despite the teacher's union.

[Whatitdo?]

Originally Posted by Gantz

The only high schools that are being shut down are the ones with very poor graduation rates, i.e. they are actually being shut down on merit, despite the teacher's union.

Why don't they take time and try to improve these schools?
These schools were far worse in the early 90s when I attended them, no one tried to shut them down. What changed so that all of a sudden that the schools are being closed closed now, instead of 15 years ago?

[DoomDan515]

Closing down High Schools doesn't solve anything. All it does is force the ghetto kids to go to another high school [usually a better one], cause that school to deteriorate, and end up making even more high schools in the city close down.

[Gantz]

Originally Posted by Whatitdo?

Why don't they take time and try to improve these schools?
These schools were far worse in the early 90s when I attended them, no one tried to shut them down. What changed so that all of a sudden that the schools are being closed closed now, instead of 15 years ago?

What changed? Bloomberg is a mayor who can stand up to teachers union.

[anon1]

Originally Posted by DoomDan515

Closing down High Schools doesn't solve anything. All it does is force the ghetto kids to go to another high school [usually a better one], cause that school to deteriorate, and end up making even more high schools in the city close down.

Close the thread... Great post. Explains the situation currently going on...

[anon1]

Originally Posted by Whatitdo?

Why don't they take time and try to improve these schools?
These schools were far worse in the early 90s when I attended them, no one tried to shut them down. What changed so that all of a sudden that the schools are being closed closed now, instead of 15 years ago?

Exactly. Thats the same question us teachers have been asking ourselves for the last five years now...

[Whatitdo?]

Originally Posted by DoomDan515

Closing down High Schools doesn't solve anything. All it does is force the ghetto kids to go to another high school [usually a better one], cause that school to deteriorate, and end up making even more high schools in the city close down.

So then why are they being closed? What's the motive here?

[jcoltrane]

Originally Posted by Whatitdo?

These big schools educated New Yorkers for generations, and simply because of a "poor" graduation rate, they are being shut down as soon as possible! Some of these schools were around since the 20s, or even before.

LMFAO!!!

I'm certain you must be a product of just such an education.

Look at the oxymoron in your comment. "...schools have educated...poor graduation rate...."

Do you see a problem with that?



If they have been educating how could the grad rate be so poor? Obviously, because they haven't been educating. Every school s/b made a charter school and compete for students.

Bloomberg must be pulling his hair out. Trying to fix a system which created nothing but dummies, while being opposed by the same damn dummies.

Can dummies be expected to think intelligently?

Bloomberg's dilemma.

[anon1]

jcoltrane what you don't realize is that the graduation rate within public schools has been rising and as some have already mentioned on here, schools were way worse back then than they are now... So what is the obsession with cutting teachers and other faculty and closing down public high schools to cater to a select group of students and then force the remaining bad struggling students to go to other decent public schools and hurt their graduation rate...

I can't tell you how many students I knew that went to Grover Cleveland that lived in East NY, Brownsville, South Jamaica, etc. cause Hillside or Thomas Jefferson, or John Adams, or the other schools in the neighborhood were either closed down or on the waiting list to be shut down... Even when the numbers were better than in previous years... Things take time... giving a school 3 year to get its act together and turn it from a D school to a B school is not an easy task... And it shows how out of touch he is with the reality of public schools...