Graff In NYC... (Ridge, Morris, Washington Heights: theatres, to live, train)

[StaggerLee22]

Graffiti in NYC is a thing of the past.
Williamsburg is full of wannabe's.
That aint graffiti- that's a bunch of young white kids from other states that wanna look kool.

This is where I spent my youth:
Writers Bench@ 149 street

If it's one thing I enjoyed about growing up in this town was my time spent bombing trains and highways from 1984-1988 {high school years}

There are no more superstars in the graffiti world.
That train past.
It's over.

[anon1]

There's still plenty of graffitti out there but i'll agree with most on here that the movement isn't what it used to be... and nowadays even though there's alot of graff artists out there as soon as they tag up a place majority of the time people rush to clean it up...

But @ frenchy I think you have a distorted view of graffitti... Graffitti doesn't equate to more crime... Alot of the neighborhoods that have alot of graffitti to this day are either hipster havens or have an influx of hipsters now like Williamsburg or Bushwick (still very shady), or decent working class areas like a Ridgewood, woodhaven, Jackson Heights etc... And some of the most notorious hoods in this city like Brownsville or East NY, or East Harlem which are dominated by Public housing don't have as much graffitti as other nicer areas like you would think... Graff heads most of the time are just regular dudes like you and me that like tagging up... @ Bluedog i'll give you the fact that most of the city isn't as dangerous as it used to be but a dangerous hood is still a dangerous hood no matter where you go... There was a documentary about someone who moved from the hood of Baltimore to edenwald thinking it was gonna be a cakewalk and ended up rethinking his move because of the crime that took place there... And this documentary was posted about 2 years ago... Every hood has the same thing... Alot of crime, heavy drug trafficking, gang problems, predominantly low income etc. Discounting the hoods in NYC justs ignores the problems that so many people in this city deal with on a day to day basis...

Areas I'd recomment or places i'd recommend... taking the m train from the Fresh pond rd stop all the way through brooklyn... the stops even within the queens side in Ridgewood have alot of street graffitti and in Bushwick obviously it continues...

Also Cypress hills along the J line has a ton of street graffitti

[frenchy93]

thanks a lot my man, very interesting post, although pardon my ignorance for believin sketchy areas got the most graff spots, i just thought of that because out there in france, places with the most graff history are the most impoverished, high-crime & low income areas with a large amount of vacants lots and where police ain't runnin around too often...thanks for explanations though

[eek]

Originally Posted by frenchy93

I'm one big hip hop addict, when i'm gonna visit new york i plan to ride the train, go see areas that traditionally scare the average tourist etc and one question that i ask myself is which neighborhoods got the most graffiti pieces in the entire city...

ride the J train. look out the window.

/thread

[frenchy93]

which neighborhoods does it go thru?

[samyn on the green]

Back in the day the 7 train had a lively rooftop graf scene. There are still remnants. IMO graf is the true hip hop culture while the music is not and is more of a product boxed up by the corporate culture marketiers. The true kings of hip hop are JA and SEEN; not the bozos that appear on MTV.

[frenchy93]

lmao yeah clowns be runnin mtv for years but underground still livin and healthy, streets is where the essence is imo, all of us hip hop fans must perpetratin the culture and spread the knowledge to the young generation...Anyway i personally dont think there one element of the culture thats realer than another, i see hip hop culture as a whole, with each discipline being a part of the movement like several branches addin to each other to form a same tree...

[mc33433]

Originally Posted by frenchy93

lmao yeah clowns be runnin mtv for years but underground still livin and healthy, streets is where the essence is imo, all of us hip hop fans must perpetratin the culture and spread the knowledge to the young generation...Anyway i personally dont think there one element of the culture thats realer than another, i see hip hop culture as a whole, with each discipline being a part of the movement like several branches addin to each other to form a same tree...

When is your trip to NYC, Frenchy?

[frenchy93]

to be honest i don't know, it was supposed to be during this autumn but i think it is gonna be deleted due to money problems, can't afford a trip to new york at the moment...

[el77]

Originally Posted by frenchy93

I may be wrong but i suppose that yuppies coming from manhattan wouldn't be very happy to live in a area thats full of graff everywhere, so thats why i thought it was weird...

Actually the yuppies and hispters think its cool and urban to see graffiti. You won't see much graffiti in nyc now and it doesn't really correlate to todays hip hop. Newark in new jersey might be a better place to see grafitti. Ny has been greatly gentrified and would probably disappoint you. The grafitti that you will find was probably done by some artist from Minnesota.