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Old 09-15-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Its not a conspiracy theory. Its a fact! Neither the media or our govt has released any video of an actual plane flying thru Washington D.C and into the Pentagon.
If terrorists weren't laughing their @sses off before, you've just given them more than enough material. (And please stop throwing that word "fact" around, when you haven't presented anything even remotely resembling one).
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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If terrorists weren't laughing their @sses off before, you've just given them more than enough material. (And please stop throwing that word "fact" around, when you haven't presented anything even remotely resembling one).
If it isnt a "fact" that our govt or media hasnt produced a single video of a plane flying thru our nations capital and into the Pentagon, then I challenge you to present one and post it here.

And no I dont want to see that streak of smoke followed by an explosion of a video that our govt says was the only video they captured of this so-called plane. I'm just totally baffled along with many other Americans at how a passenger airliner can fly right thru the middle of our nations capital and into the most secure building in the country, and theres not 1 bit of footage on this. Cmon man....you must admit something is fishy!
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Old 09-15-2011, 06:25 PM
 
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Lets be honest, white people are always OTT. Mostly man-ginas.
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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If it isnt a "fact" that our govt or media hasnt produced a single video of a plane flying thru our nations capital and into the Pentagon, then I challenge you to present one and post it here.
A couple of posts back, someone explained to you that the planes came from the Virginia side. That would have made it impossible for them to arrive via the District of Columbia. So, no, I'm not going to post a video--mainly because no such thing exists. Look at a map, for heaven's sake.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:35 PM
 
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I'm sure this will be unpopular stance, but I don't have a problem with the extra searches at airports and I fly once or twice a year. Maybe it's because I have nothing to hide that's against the law.

Would people rather any threat be ignored and shrugged off or would you rather a diligent law enforcement effort even if the initial lead isn't anything substantial? I'd rather spend the extra few minutes at the airport security line to ensure nothing funny is happening.
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Old 09-15-2011, 09:17 PM
 
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I'm sure this will be unpopular stance, but I don't have a problem with the extra searches at airports and I fly once or twice a year. Maybe it's because I have nothing to hide that's against the law.

Would people rather any threat be ignored and shrugged off or would you rather a diligent law enforcement effort even if the initial lead isn't anything substantial? I'd rather spend the extra few minutes at the airport security line to ensure nothing funny is happening.
I'd rather live in the America I was born in, where you didn't have armed government thugs around every corner demanding to search your possessions. Going through an airport -- or the subway, on the days they are doing the searches -- is like something out of an old WWII movie. And in those, the guys with the guns demanding "papers please" were understood to be the BAD GUYS!
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Old 09-15-2011, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
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I'm sure this will be unpopular stance, but I don't have a problem with the extra searches at airports and I fly once or twice a year. Maybe it's because I have nothing to hide that's against the law.

Would people rather any threat be ignored and shrugged off or would you rather a diligent law enforcement effort even if the initial lead isn't anything substantial? I'd rather spend the extra few minutes at the airport security line to ensure nothing funny is happening.
You make too much sense. In America, it's kind of forbidden.

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I'd rather live in the America I was born in, where you didn't have armed government thugs around every corner demanding to search your possessions. Going through an airport -- or the subway, on the days they are doing the searches -- is like something out of an old WWII movie. And in those, the guys with the guns demanding "papers please" were understood to be the BAD GUYS!
I bet you're one of those people (I ASSUME) who would be the first to shout and yell, if another horrible attack, would ever take place. You don't know what you're talking about and maybe you should research a bit more before commenting on something you're clueless about.

This notion that workers at the airport just want to harass people is completely false and lacks any solid evidence. Maybe if people, when walking through metal DETECTORS would divest all METAL, they wouldn't need additional searches. Whether people like it or not TSA is apart of a federal agency. And it's not going anywhere. So you can comply or you just won't fly.

I think they do their job pretty well. The backlash they get is unnecessary and cruel.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:17 PM
 
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I'd rather live in the America I was born in, where you didn't have armed government thugs around every corner demanding to search your possessions. Going through an airport -- or the subway, on the days they are doing the searches -- is like something out of an old WWII movie. And in those, the guys with the guns demanding "papers please" were understood to be the BAD GUYS!
There are a million different things we'd all love to go back to, but this is reality. And I don't know where you are going, but I've only be asked for ID at the following places in the last 10 years and that's excluding offices I've worked in:

- Airports
- Bars
- Amtrak
- Arenas/Stadiums when picking up will call tickets for concerts or sporting events

So I don't know where you're getting this WWII notion of being demanded to see your papers at every turn you make.

Like I've said, if you're a law-abiding person with nothing to hide, then this shouldn't be a big deal.
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Old 09-16-2011, 12:32 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Security is good, but it is a bit overboard nowadays. We're all going to die anyway..so if my fate is departing this earth on a hijacked plane...then so be it.

Life is too short for all this nonsense.
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Old 09-16-2011, 11:13 AM
 
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This says it all :

The Corbett Report | 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory
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