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Old 11-27-2011, 08:31 PM
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by scatman View Post
I'm not going anywhere, right now!

I want access to public transportation and walkability. No other city that I have visited has these things. The closest (if you want to say close) are Chicago, Philly and DC. Philly has walkability and is close to New York but does not have an extensive subway system. Chicago is a great city and has great transportation, but is segregated, with questionable politics. DC has the great government job market and the Metro, but doesn't have any residential areas along its suburban stops (at least on the Green Line). One would have to live in the city limits to have walkability!

A "fantasy" city would be San Francisco. Most neighborhoods are like Park Slope with hills, but that cost of living is just like New York!
SF County is pretty legit. I've only been once for pleasure for a few days, but as a former NYer I was left with a nice impression. Very cultural feeling, with gritty areas and posh areas alike. Enough public transit options to thoroughly confuse you. Fast paced yet a distinctly more relaxed atmosphere compared to the east coast, which I guess could only be summarized as the "California vibe". I possibly might get a wild hair to try it out someday. Actually you get a bit more for your housing money than you would in Manhattan or some parts of Brooklyn. Not much, but a bit. Never snows either.
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:51 PM
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I like to visit a lot of the U.S. But the only places I'm interested in living in are the NYC and DC areas (in which I currently live).

Anyplace else is just not the same.
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Old 11-30-2011, 11:54 AM
Location: CT
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I moved down to Raleigh NC. VERY nice weather, but sometimes feel like we're missing out on life, like we are on an extended vacation. We will probably move back to NYC at some point, but with young kids, the schooling is an issue.

We have lived in/checked out: Hawaii, So Cal., Florida, Chicago, Boston, NYC/Westchester, CT, etc...

Plan on spending more time in Europe. America is bland, bland, bland....
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:13 PM
Location: a swanky suburb in my fancy pants
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If you are basically satisfied with the NYC lifestyle but want to step it down just a notch, improve your quality of life and get a lot more for your money then Philadelphia is the answer. It is fast paced, crowded, stimulating, everything you love about NY, but just a little less intense and a lot less expensive. Also it is only two hours back to NY to visit or invite company

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Old 11-30-2011, 07:58 PM
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by Lisa2013 View Post
The key is relocating to a place that has a relatively large city and amenities/culture nearby. I was born in NYC and raised in LI, NY. I attended college outside of NY and relocated back to NY (Manhattan to accept a job offer), after completing my studies.

I lived in the heart of Manhattan for 7.5 years after college. While in Manhattan, I worked full time and attended graduate school at NYU. Needless to say, I was definitely immersed in the culture of NYC. NYU offers its students great discounts on plays and broadway shows; I definitely took full advantage. Also, on the weekends, I was an avid jogger in central park, (I know the park like the back of my hand) and I frequented a lot of the various restaurants in the city.

I really enjoyed the city, but I was tired of the pollution, negative attitudes, small apartment living (with no closet space for my shoes), lack of parking options, etc. Therefore, I decided to take the leap. Two months after graduating, I landed a great job in D.C. and opted to live a few miles outside of D.C., in Northern, VA.

I love my community. I use the metro to commute to work (it takes me only 15 minutes or so) and I reside in a lovely condo with a rooftop pool, stainless steel GE kitchen appliances, walk in closets, a washer/dryer inside my condo, and a parking space on the same floor as my unit! I'm presently renting now, but I am getting ready to purchase my own home. As a young single woman, I wouldn't be able to afford a nice home in NYC or the LI suburbs, (even with my current great salary).

Anyhow, the best part is, I have easy access to visit friends/family in NY (without even driving). There's an amtrak train station a few blocks away. Typically it takes around 4-5 hours to reach Penn Station by train. When I'm feeling really impatient however, I can just book a flight to NY and arrive at JFK in under 45 minutes.

Again, the key for native single/young New Yorkers that are looking to successfully transition to a new place is to take it slow. Don't try to relocate to the middle of nowhere. Find a place that's not too far from a city with vibrant culture/entertainment. Also, consider public transportation access, and airport accessibility.

I'm elated to be out of NYC. I have a great profession/job with high earnings. In NYC, I could never live on the same level and enjoy a similar quality of life.

Good luck to all of you in your quest for better living!
The DC area is a good alternative to NYC. It's expensive and crowded but you at least feel like you are living in the 21st century and can progress in life.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:01 PM
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by hilltopjay View Post
I've over heard many conversations among black people of them relocating and moving back down south to Georgia and the Carolinas where it is cheaper to live due to the lower cost of living. Has anyone seen this trend in their neighborhood?
It's becoming a major theme. Blacks moving back down South. So many in fact that Obama's reelection campaign honestly believe they can be competitive in places like Georgia.

I find it odd that they would maintain the same politics that made them flee in the first place but oh well.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:09 PM
Location: New York
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Probably one of the major cities in California, like San Diego, LA (Pasadena) or SF, which is probably just as expensive as NYC, or Chicago. but I'm really disliking it more here as I'm getting older because of all these transplants that take away the dignity of a NYer, rat race, and all these major changes in neighborhoods.
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Photography View Post
I was on hiatus from C-D for about half a year, and have recently been lurking. I was compelled to login just to reply to this thread.

I am so sick of this city, and will be leaving in less than two years to go back to my hometown (I'm originally from Dallas, where I lived all my life prior to moving to NYC), which I am thrilled about. NYC is a very nasty, cold, frustrating, and extremely challenging city to live in. I cannot wait to get out of this God-forsaken hell hole.

New York City is an absolute dystopia, and it has the worst quality of life in the entire U.S. I have lived here for almost ten years. Every time I went on vacation, I found myself fantasizing about moving to wherever I went, whether it was Florida, Hawaii, California, the Pacific Northwest, the South, the Southwest, Europe, or anywhere else. When it comes to U.S. locations, as long as place isnít too ridden with crime (and maybe even if it is), itís all better than living in New York City.

In NYC, being nice is considered a fault of some sort, or something that demands repayment. I can't even explain a lot of typical situations I encountered everyday to relatives back home without shocking and disturbing them. I have gained several stress-related conditions while living here (anxiety, high blood pressure), and they all completely developed during my time living in NYC. New Yorkers on the whole (NOT all New Yorkers are cold and nasty -- there are certainly some nice ones) are some of the rudest, coldest, nastiest individuals I have ever had the misfortune of encountering.

The food is terrific, though, and it is the only thing that I will miss when I leave. A lot of restaurants are very unsanitary, however. Everyone I knew here frequently came down with food poisoning immediately after eating at restaurants of all kinds. Speaking of illnesses, colds, coughs, and flus spread like the plague in NYC, and you usually canít avoid getting coughed or sneezed on a typical winter day. I always maintain good health and hygiene, but due to other people's complete disregard and general inconsiderateness for others (sneezing/coughing without covering their mouth), I got sick 4 separate times last year.

The weather is also terrible here. In the summer, it is extremely hot and humid, which produces sweat while you're waiting down in the stifling (and very smelly) subway stations, with temperatures in excess of 100+ degrees. It rains a LOT here. Then, in the winter, it snows for long periods and can get very cold. If you enjoy these extremes in weather, then I can understand that. It is somewhat subjective and one person may have a different preference in weather.

Also, the transportation system (MTA) is pathetic. It's open 24/7 and does reach most of the city, which is nice, but it's infested with rats, roaches, homeless, disgusting smells (including human waste, which is very disturbing), litter, dirt, dust, rust, and TOXIC BLACK MOLD (next time you're in a subway station, look up - there's most likely toxic black mold growing -- this toxic black mold has adverse health hazards). The subway system is over 100 years old, so the MTA constantly has to do repairs everyday and on weekends just to try and keep up and keep the system from literally falling apart (even though they're failing miserably with the abysmal conditions of the subway system). Delays are the norm on the trains, and being crammed into the train and having to stand for your entire commute while being squished with tons of other people is not fun.

It's extremely challenging to live in NYC, even doing basic things like laundry (hauling everything to the laundromat or down to your building's basement laundry room if you have one), or grocery shopping (carrying tons of bags, or using one of those silly carts that you see everyone pushing around). If you have a car, it's easier. However, if you live in a walk-up building and you live on a high floor, it gets old very fast. Also, things like dishwashers, washers, and dryers are considered luxury appliances, and are very rare to have here (even in million dollar apartments), whereas in the rest of the country, they're very commonly found in homes. (Then again, if you're rich and you live in NYC, or anywhere for that matter, life will always be much easier for you.)

Let's not forget about how absurdly expensive it is to live in NYC. Everything from monthly rent/mortgage to groceries is much more expensive here. The rent prices here are insane, and further emphasize the wealth disparity between the rich and the poor in NYC. Also, NYC has the highest combined city and state tax rates anywhere in the country. Groceries are also way overpriced, from a gallon of milk averaging $4-6 (!), and a box of cereal averaging $5-10 (!!!!). I've never understood why CEREAL is so expensive in NYC compared to other parts of the country. Take a look at cereal prices next time you go to your local grocery store and you'll see what I mean. I even shop at a crappy, pathetic excuse of a grocery store (C-Town) and I live in Queens (not Manhattan, where grocery prices are even MORE expensive), and cereal prices range from $5-10. It's completely absurd.

I feel bad for New Yorkers who have never been anywhere else. Living in NYC made me see the U.S. in a whole new way. There are so very many great places to live in this country, and people in those places donít realize how good they have it. Itís weird, ever since I've lived in NYC, there have been certain negative emotions that I just donít feel anywhere else (panic, rage, etc.), and certain positive ones that I just haven't ever felt here in NYC (serenity, relaxation, etc.). You can see exhaustion on other people's faces who live here and experience these same challenges everyday (look around next time you're on the train or out in public, and you'll see the locals who appear exhausted and overworked), not knowing that the grass truly is greener on the other side.

To those who want to leave: Itís easier than you think, and youíll be happier (and wiser) in your new location.

To born and bred New Yorkers: I know itís painful to hear this, but life really is a lot easier outside NYC. Get out there and find out for yourself. You can afford an entire HOUSE with a nice big front and back yard, garage, washer/dryer/dishwasher, safe community, wonderful neighbors, etc for under $200,000 (in Dallas, for example - there are many other cities around the nation that fit this description) -- your ENTIRE monthly mortgage payment would be less than the astronomical monthly rent that one pays to live in NYC! Do the math!

To people who really do love New York: I canít relate to you. I just donít get it, and Iíve really tried.


may we ask you where do you live now?
your contribution would be highly appreciated
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:42 PM
Location: In my view finder.....
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Originally Posted by FOReverxpeace View Post
Probably one of the major cities in California, like San Diego, LA (Pasadena) or SF, which is probably just as expensive as NYC, or Chicago. but I'm really disliking it more here as I'm getting older because of all these transplants that take away the dignity of a NYer, rat race, and all these major changes in neighborhoods.
Would you rather NYC turn into Flint,Michigan?

No one is taking anyone's dignity by relocating to NYC.

You like many just can't deal with.........the change. Nothing stays the same. I know many of you want "the old" NYC back but it's not coming back. The only thing that I can advise would be for you to enjoy the memories.

As much as I love the 80's(as it relates to movies) that style of moving making is not coming back. I'll embrace the current form of moving making with excitement while enjoying memories of the 80's.

New things, new people are not all that bad. With a lot of transplants comes money, not always but in a lot of cases it's true. When I move there, I'll be bringing money to add to the local economy.

People will always look for any way to separate themselves. "Transplants -vs- Locals" is a common theme I see on this forum and I have good enough sense to know that it's not representative of all of NYC.

I wake up and focus on how to improve my life and live the life that I want to live. What my neighbor is doing or who's moving into or out of the city is of no concern of mine. I most certainly would not up-root because of transplants. Evey city of at lest 500K or more population has people coming and going.

Life is easier if you can accept life as a moving pendulum. Let it(life) move freely and it's much easier to deal with things
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:57 PM
Location: Brooklyn,NY
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Upstate NY so I can get away from everyone and enjoy the cold and snowy weather.
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