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Old 10-13-2011, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Our two-party political system is so sad. What COULD be an interesting debate is too easy to pigeonhole into either left or right stereotypes, which ensures almost immediate denigration into pointless drivel. The right doesn't control us through capitalism, and the left doesn't control us through welfare... they all laugh at us as we argue over stupid talking points. Its such a shame.

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-the exponential and unsustainable increase in the city's budget, particularly for medicaid, welfare and pension costs
It's going to be tough for the city to cover these costs going forward without increase revenue sources, something I don't see happening anytime soon.

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the mass exodus of the middle and upper classes over the past 10-15 years, which has severely reduced the tax base - wonder why the city and MTA have to issue so much debt just to pay for basic, ongoing expenditures?
A fact that many people refuse to recognize. Replacing middle class taxpayers with illegals, which has been happening in this city is good for no one, EXCEPT the ultra rich who get to have their playground, staffed with low-wage workers stuffed into ghettos.

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the feds are also bankrupt and unable to bail out the city the way they have in the past
I disagree with you on this one. The Feds would step in somehow, possibly controlling the city's finances or voiding contracts with unions, which the fed has done in the past.

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the overall, long-term trend of pensions and health care for current and retired public union workers that is consuming an ever increasing percentage of the budget
Luckily, NYC has started to take some steps to address this problem by increasing the retirement age for its workers (even cops and firemen to 22.5) and lowering some of the retirement benefits. The unions benefit from this also through stronger funds that won't disappear.

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a higher percentage of homeowners in the city's wealthier districts are pied a terres, meaning that they own here but live abroad - which translates to zero income taxes paid for many people living in high-end residences. As much as 1/3 of some hi-rise buildings in manhattan are said to be owned by foreign nationals spending less than 2 weeks per year in NYC
Interesting, I never considered this. If anyone is interesting in researching this effect, look at the Adirondacks, an area which has dealt with this for years.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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You go to France, you think you see American cars? Lol. Matter of fact, can you go to any other country and see American cars?
I can 100% state that Germany is full of American cars, especially Fords which are loved over there.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Confines of the 101 Precinct
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I can 100% state that Germany is full of American cars, especially Fords which are loved over there.
I have never been to Germany. As far as Europe goes I have been to England and France and I don't remember seeing any American cars there. That's actually surprising to me since Mercedes-Benz is reknowned worldwide.

Do they drive on the left in Germany?

Does the USA manufacture export cars for left hand driving? I would actually like to dig into this and see what I can find concerning stats.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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I have never been to Germany. As far as Europe goes I have been to England and France and I don't remember seeing any American cars there. That's actually surprising to me since Mercedes-Benz is reknowned worldwide.

Do they drive on the left in Germany?

Does the USA manufacture export cars for left hand driving? I would actually like to dig into this and see what I can find concerning stats.
I was in Germany and Italy for a while this summer and I saw very few American cars in either country.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:29 PM
 
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I was in Germany and Italy for a while this summer and I saw very few American cars in either country.
Yeah....like I suspected. Only way to confirm is to ask a native what they think.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:42 PM
 
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Do they drive on the left in Germany?
No, they don't. The Fords that are popular there do not meet American safety standards (they don't have to, ours are higher). The company tests a lot of new models over there because of this. Germany is a big proving ground for fuel efficient engines.

I've spent a lot more than "some time in the summer" in Germany, so I'm fairly confident in my statements. But feel free to look into it, you'll be surprised. Most of the Mercedes you'll see over there have non-leather interiors and glowing yellow signs that say "Taxi" on them by the way.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:45 PM
 
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Yeah....like I suspected.
PS, here's the first google result for "Ford cars in Germany". Yeah... like I KNEW.

ALL-NEW FORD FOCUS PRODUCTION STARTS IN GERMANY | Ford Motor Company Newsroom

Take note of some of the other facts mentioned in that article. You may find them interesting considering you also asked whether American cars were sold ANYWHERE else...
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:55 PM
 
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No, they don't. The Fords that are popular there do not meet American safety standards (they don't have to, ours are higher). The company tests a lot of new models over there because of this. Germany is a big proving ground for fuel efficient engines.

I've spent a lot more than "some time in the summer" in Germany, so I'm fairly confident in my statements. But feel free to look into it, you'll be surprised. Most of the Mercedes you'll see over there have non-leather interiors and glowing yellow signs that say "Taxi" on them by the way.
In France, the majority of taxis were Mercedes-Benz as well. I don't dispute that. Thanks for the article, I will read into it. However, I am fairly confident that American cars worldwide are not as favored as the Japanese, German or Koreans.
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Old 10-13-2011, 08:00 PM
 
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That's probably true. Just remember, THIS was your first statement though, which is far different from 'not the most favored':

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You go to France, you think you see American cars? Lol. Matter of fact, can you go to any other country and see American cars? Lmao. Please. Nobody wants them.
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Old 10-13-2011, 08:06 PM
 
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That's probably true. Just remember, THIS was your first statement though, which is far different from 'not the most favored':
And I still stand by it. If there was such a demand for American cars overseas then there would be no need to close manufacturing plants...we have the land space and the labor so both of those aren't a problem. Only thing missing is the demand.
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