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Old 10-19-2011, 04:16 PM
 
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Negative.

NYC's "euro invasion" has created a smorgasboard of metrosexuals and male pansys
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:20 PM
 
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That depiction looks exactly the same as it is now. So yeah, that's where money should be going. Makes sense, thanks for swaying me.
In comparison to how it was before the plazas, it is very different. The most recent updates are for aesthetics, increased capacity, traffic calming, and safety.

Why would any New Yorker be against this?
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:20 PM
 
Location: The United States of Amnesia
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Negative.

NYC's "euro invasion" has created a smorgasboard of metrosexuals and male pansys
The American hollywood and the mass media has done that. European has always been European.
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:35 PM
 
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In comparison to how it was before the plazas, it is very different. The most recent updates are for aesthetics, increased capacity, traffic calming, and safety.

Why would any New Yorker be against this?

I'm saying compared to how it looks now.
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:51 PM
 
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The bike share system has been getting some positive reinforcement.

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Unscientific Survey Says: 100 Percent of New Yorkers Support Bike-Share

Streetsblog New York City Unscientific Survey Says: 100 Percent of New Yorkers Support Bike-Share
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Many in attendance appeared thrilled with the bike-share proposal, and no one seemed to oppose it, continuing the positive public response bike-share has received so far. “This is exciting,” said committee member Florent Morellet. “I’ll be one of the first to try it.”

“If there’s a bad part, it’s that it’s taken too long,” said local resident Fred James.

One resident who had recently moved to New York from Washington D.C. said that there, bike-sharing had improved cyclists’ behavior significantly. “The number of people cycling has increased dramatically and safety has increased dramatically. The number of people stopping at red lights and at stop signs is way up,” he reported.

Streetsblog New York City CB 2 Committee Voices Support for Bike-Sharing as System Details Emerge
http://a841-tfpweb.nyc.gov/bikeshare/
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Old 10-19-2011, 05:03 PM
 
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The bike share system has been getting some positive reinforcement.





New York City Bike Share | Help shape NYC's new transit option

No one said that there is no market for it.
Some of us are saying that it'll be a niche market.

I am an avid bicyclist but I won't use a bike share bicycle. Why? I have my own and it's multitudes better.
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Old 10-19-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Only SoBro stood in agreement.



Bike share has worked outside of Europe across cities inside the United States. You give no good reasons as to why it will not work.



Street cars prove very efficient for certain corridors. They will eventually make a return to NYC eventually considering building new subway lines proves to be too expensive.

The Red Hook study is debatable considering Street Car systems are cheaper to run then bus systems after initial construction. I also find it debatable the Street Cars cannot run along the narrow streets, there was a Street Car running that route many years ago.



What about cities like London and Mexico City? The city is dense enough to the borders to support a city-wide system. Have you ever been to DC? The traffic is as bad/congested as NYC.

On one hand you say NYC is too congested, but then you say it will work great in Manhattan, the northern half of Brooklyn, western Queens and the West Bronx? Those are the densest areas in NYC, a bulk of the area too.
Last time visted DC was 11 years ago.
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Old 10-19-2011, 06:45 PM
 
Location: NY,NY
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Posted in error.

Last edited by jcoltrane; 10-19-2011 at 06:53 PM.. Reason: posted in error
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:58 PM
 
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Why don't more people use bike's then? The percentage of bikers is pathetically low across NYC. I bike regularly. I see it. I barely see other bikes on the road and when I do it's the cyclists (who are biking for sport not for errands/everyday affairs).
NYPD hates bicyclists. Pedestrians hate bicyclists (and walk in front of them and get mad when the bicyclist doesn't immediately fall down and beg pardon for being there). Taxis don't hate bicyclists, but they do just pretend not to see them. Other drivers hate bicyclists. The city is constantly closing bicycle access to streets and bridges. And traffic makes bicycling difficult even when the drivers aren't trying to kill you. If you want to take the subway part way and bicycle the rest, it's quite difficult. And then there's the weather.
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Old 10-20-2011, 01:38 AM
 
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I don't see them working in the hood or non-sex and city areas. I forsee the young youths destroying, vandalizing, urinating, etc on those bikes. How will the company handle accidents, robbery. bikers with no helmets, etc. NYC is way too overcrowded with people and cars as it is.

I would rather have a street car. Maybe a street car that goes along the West Side Highway and another that goes along the FDR/Harlem River Drive. The Street cars should stop in the areas where crosstown buses intersect. The city should encourage carpooling.

I would forgo the bike share. It's better to work on a teleport machine,
To be fair, those youths have nothing stopping them from getting on the subway and picking up bikes from there. NYTimes a few years ago had a article on Paris having an issue with youth from it's suburban ghettos coming into the center of town and destroying said bikes.

I like the Light rail idea better. Maybe some lines into eastern queens where subway service is sparse.
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