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Old 11-01-2011, 08:36 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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........ Since we're reminiscing about Mott Haven, in the Bronx, let's not forget ENY, Bklyn.

Check out some of the pictures below, it's wasn't a bad neighborhood through the early 1960's. Strong lower middle class hood with lots of pride in their homes, multi-generational families and strong neighbor ties.

Unfortunately, times have change.

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Old 11-01-2011, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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The developers destroyed that area point blank... Race had nothing to do with it... I guess Brownsville was a great area before Blacks and hispanics started moving in as well... I don't know why the textbooks use "vicious slum" to describe that area in the early 20th century when there were no blacks or hispanics there... it obviously couldn't have been a bad area...

And that's why the country itself was such a great and peaceful place mid 19th to early 20th century... No violence or crime back then... Everything was smooth sailing... The fact that we are at record lows right now with a much more diverse population... those are just blatant lies... The hoods are secretly hiding thousands of dead bodies in there basement... Our crime rate is really at all-time highs...
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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East New York was one of the many neighborhoods that fell apart very quickly during the 1977 blackout.
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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East New York has one of the more fascinating histories of any NYC neighborhood...

It was founded in 1835 by John Pitkin, a merchant from Connecticut who had problems in his dealings with New York. So he proposed to establish a new city that would first equal, and then surpass New York (then he would have his revenge!) Unfortunately, he was wiped out in a major depression, the "Panic of 1837." East New York sat around as a small village for half a century, and was finally annexed by the then-City of Brooklyn in 1886. Pitkin's name, of course, was memorialized on the map with Pitkin Avenue.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:57 AM
 
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East New York back in the crack epidemic was a battlefield. 115 murders in 1991 alone!
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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East New York was one of the many neighborhoods that fell apart very quickly during the 1977 blackout.
During the blackout in 1977, Bushwick suffered terribly. Broadway was almost completely burned out.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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When Blacks and Hispanics arrived in ENY the area was already suffering from neglected public services especially poor schools and restrictive welfare practices. And at a time when NY economy was deindustrializing that meant there were fewer jobs for rural people without urban skills.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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Great pictures, wonderful architecture. Not sure why anyone thinks it was a great community pre-people of color...more revisionist history as usual. For the record, these types of communities are the ONLY ones left with multigenerationaal families and strong neighbor ties.

Come to my area of Mott Haven, and I can tell you who owns every house on the block, most of them have been there since the 50s, my parents went to school with their kids, and most have baby sat me at some point or gave me a nice whipping for crossing the street unsupervised. I wonder...is that the experience in Chelsea these days? Soho? Tribeca? Or any of these "great" neighborhoods? NO. It still is here though....and probably in ENY too...can you say that about your neighborhood today?
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:37 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Great pictures, wonderful architecture. Not sure why anyone thinks it was a great community pre-people of color...more revisionist history as usual. For the record, these types of communities are the ONLY ones left with multigenerationaal families and strong neighbor ties.

Come to my area of Mott Haven, and I can tell you who owns every house on the block, most of them have been there since the 50s, my parents went to school with their kids, and most have baby sat me at some point or gave me a nice whipping for crossing the street unsupervised. I wonder...is that the experience in Chelsea these days? Soho? Tribeca? Or any of these "great" neighborhoods? NO. It still is here though....and probably in ENY too...can you say that about your neighborhood today?
Well, if you're a part of the neighborhood community, then Greenpoint, Riverdale, parts of Astoria, and Chinatown among others would probably count. Those are definitely neighborhoods with multigenerational families and strong neighbor ties. Also, fairly low crime to boot.
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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The developers destroyed that area point blank... Race had nothing to do with it... I guess Brownsville was a great area before Blacks and hispanics started moving in as well... I don't know why the textbooks use "vicious slum" to describe that area in the early 20th century when there were no blacks or hispanics there... it obviously couldn't have been a bad area...

And that's why the country itself was such a great and peaceful place mid 19th to early 20th century... No violence or crime back then... Everything was smooth sailing... The fact that we are at record lows right now with a much more diverse population... those are just blatant lies... The hoods are secretly hiding thousands of dead bodies in there basement... Our crime rate is really at all-time highs...
THANK YOU, at least one person gets it. Leave it up to some people and you would swear black people invented street violence in this country
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