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Old 11-11-2011, 05:21 PM
 
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In what global category do you think would each of the 5 boroughs (Manhattan, Brooklyn, the Bronx, Queens, and Staten Island) fall into if each of them were to be an independent city: Alpha +, Alpha, Alpha -, Beta +, Beta, Beta -, Gamma +, Gamma, Gamma -, highly livable city, or livable city?

Wikipedia has a good article that explains what a “global city” is in case any of you don’t know what it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city

New York City, by the way, is one of the 2 cities in the world that are classified as Alpha ++. The other one is London.

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Old 11-11-2011, 05:55 PM
 
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In my opinion the 5 boroughs are very interlinked. People commute from one to the other. They live in one, eat in another. Visit friends in another. Bike ride through them. It is one city. Why would you split them up as independent cities when they are interlinked pieces of one city?
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Old 11-13-2011, 08:34 AM
 
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Queens would be an Alpha city just off the strength of it having 2 airports, one of them being international.
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:48 AM
 
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In what global category do you think would each of the 5 boroughs (Manhattan, Brooklyn, the Bronx, Queens, and Staten Island) fall into if each of them were to be an independent city: Alpha +, Alpha, Alpha -, Beta +, Beta, Beta -, Gamma +, Gamma, Gamma -, highly livable city, or livable city?

Wikipedia has a good article that explains what a “global city” is in case any of you don’t know what it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city

New York City, by the way, is one of the 2 cities in the world that are classified as Alpha ++. The other one is London.
Manhatten-Alpha++
Brooklyn-Alpha
Queens-Alpha
Bronx-Gamma
Staten Island-Gamma-
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Old 11-14-2011, 01:03 AM
 
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They mostly define these things by metro area, so if we were to arbitrarily separate all these from each other as single entities compared to the rest of the world (an incredibly unfair comparison) then Manhattan would fall a few notches (Alpha minus by itself or Alpha if it gets to take New Jersey that borders Manhattan along the Hudson) while Brooklyn and Queens might possibly make Gamma (sure they're bigger than a lot of Alpha cities, but not if you include those metropolitan areas). They would be penalized for the fact that so few international corporations/institutions make their headquarters outside of Manhattan.

If this were some other kind of poll that asked where would you rather live (or how's the nightlife or cultural institutions), then I'd definitely put the outer boroughs above the majority of the US and the world's major cities.

Final point being that New York operates as a whole (not just Manhattan). New York is amazing because of all of its boroughs
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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There are plenty of people out there *cough* Michael Bloomberg *cough* that think New York City is just Manhattan & the outer boroughs are a city of 4 boroughs.

If the boroughs were independent cities, they would be pretty damn small cities.
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Old 11-14-2011, 12:11 PM
 
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There are plenty of people out there *cough* Michael Bloomberg *cough* that think New York City is just Manhattan & the outer boroughs are a city of 4 boroughs.

If the boroughs were independent cities, they would be pretty damn small cities.
Not so small, at least by population. Brooklyn has about 2.5 million residents. Queens has about 2.2 million. If they were independent cities, they would be the third and fourth largest US cities behind Los Angeles (3.8 million) and Chicago (2.7 million).
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Old 11-14-2011, 12:39 PM
 
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There are plenty of people out there *cough* Michael Bloomberg *cough* that think New York City is just Manhattan & the outer boroughs are a city of 4 boroughs.

If the boroughs were independent cities, they would be pretty damn small cities.
They wouldn't be that small.

Queens:
Population: 2,230,722
Land Area: 109.24 sq mi

Brooklyn:
Population: 2,504,700
Land Area: 70.61 sq mi

Let's compare to say... Philadelphia - the fifth biggest city in the US:
Population: 1,526,006
Land Area: 134.1


I don't think they should ever be made separate cities, but even if they were, by size and population they are no so small. The limitations would be more like industry diversity when they are separated.
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Old 11-14-2011, 12:40 PM
 
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Not so small, at least by population. Brooklyn has about 2.5 million residents. Queens has about 2.2 million. If they were independent cities, they would be the third and fourth largest US cities behind Los Angeles (3.8 million) and Chicago (2.7 million).
Yup. Exactly.
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Old 11-14-2011, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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Both Brooklyn and Manhattan can easily stand strong if they were their own cities, not really so much the other boroughs though.
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