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Old 12-08-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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Elevated subway lines in the outer boroughs. How about it? We could get the Third Ave El back, connect it to the 2nd Ave subway for example. Would be much cheaper and faster to construct. Would raise property values, revitalize areas( ie Morrisania, East Tremont). Modern Els are quieter and more visually appealing.

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Old 12-08-2011, 08:55 AM
 
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I am all for it...very inexpensive as opposed to underground, and can be done relatively quickly. I don't see why it would be a problem. Noise could be reduced by encasing the tracks 3/4 of the way (the top would remain open) in some sort of plastic.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:22 AM
 
Location: New York City
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But there'd still be noise. And the darkness would be bad for the residences on the avenue. After all, Yorkville's livability improved only after the els had been torn down.

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I am all for it...very inexpensive as opposed to underground, and can be done relatively quickly. I don't see why it would be a problem. Noise could be reduced by encasing the tracks 3/4 of the way (the top would remain open) in some sort of plastic.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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Noise and darkness are better than stagnation due to aread of the city missing out on a direct subway connection. As a young professional myself, I would not like to live in an area where I need to take a 15 minute bus ride to a subway station.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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we have the elevated train here on 86th street in brooklyn, it seems to bother no one.
i like it because when you are on it, you can see out the window.

and I agree with the o/p I wouldnt want to take a bus to the subway, I like it right at my corner.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: New York City
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It would have to be a completely separate system, like the AirTrain. Anything that connected to the existing Subway would be far too loud to get past the NIMBYs, like the proposed extension of the N Train to LaGuardia. Even then it would be difficult; New Yorkers protest every little thing.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:51 AM
 
Location: The Present
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Isn't the SAS supposed to have a brand new trunk line serving the bronx? (following the original alignment of the 3rd ave el but a different termination point).

there are even plenty of places where light rail could be placed to feed into existing and underused subway stations.
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Old 12-08-2011, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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New Yorkers protest every little thing.
yep, especially milliion pound trains SCREETCHING by our bedroom windows every 20 minutes!
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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The other boroughs seem to be doing just fine with elevated tracks...I don't see why it would be a problem building new ones. Furthermore, the ones they build now would likely be substantially quieter anyway. Anyone who thinks more train lines, even elevated lines, is a bad idea, does not understand NYC.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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The sound could be dampened by encasing the roadbed in ballasted track and welded rail.
Bring them on we could really use them!
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