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Old 01-27-2012, 01:47 PM
Location: NYC
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I checked on Craigslist and some clever person was calling the southern most part (around 67th St & 4th Ave) "Sun Ridge" - Sunset Park/Bay Ridge border.

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Old 01-27-2012, 05:16 PM
Location: NY,NY
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Disagree. In NYC there is too much fluctuation even within neighborhoods for this to not be a valid question. If I wanted to move to Queens, I know NOTHING about the different areas within Queens to determine safety. Is Flushing "safe"? I don't know since I've never been there and don't know anyone that lives there. The only things I know about Queens are 1) the beer garden in Astoria and 2) how to get to the Airports. Everything else comes from what I've seen in the movie Coming to America. This is why many people have misconceptions about so many neighborhoods or whole boroughs (i.e. The Bronx); they've never been there, don't know anyone living there, and all other knowledge comes form the media.

Also, areas change constantly in NYC. Even take a place like Park Slope. 30 years ago it was a very different place than it is now. Ft Green of the 80s and 90s, complete 180 from what it is now. Someone that would have been familiar with NYC in the 70s would have no idea of the type of neighborhoods these areas have evolved into today.
The problem with your argument and mentality is ONE OF Presumption.

As you state you do not *know*.

So, the question is then WHY do you have such a presumptive attitude?

If you know nothing, then why don't you presume SAFETY?

In asking such a question, it is inherent that you presume everyone has an equal preception of SAFETY, and therefore can comment specifically to your inane concerns.

Th question also is presumptive in assuming that there is some universal standard of "safety" which is identified and recognized by commonly by all. Perhaps in some sterile suburban circumstance this might be so; but, it is not and cannot be so in NYC.

Such questions are not simple innocent inquisitives, but rather direct statements of ignorant narrow minds; as if their could be any reality to an answer of 'yes' or, anything definitive to an answer of 'no'.

There also is the presumption of equality, as if what might be safe for me, will be safe for you!

So, generic questions of safety are just pointless and irritatingly stupid.
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Old 06-17-2012, 01:47 AM
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I live just off 4th ave, and while I love the neighborhood, I'm glad I don't have to go by 5th ave at night. It's so lively and active during the day that the stark contrast at night makes me nervous. That, and after the PR Pride parade last weekend, I saw a guy get a bottle smashed over his head, and a fight broke out. Again, I really do love the neighborhood: fabulous food, friendly neighbors, good transportation; and I often come home late (and maybe a little tipsy), and I've never had issues.
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